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Old 09-30-2014, 01:49 AM   #15
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I had a 2002 GT before this. I'm glad I switch for the extra power, easier shifting, lower center of gravity and handling and believe it or, more head space in the front seats. Things I miss are definitely having the hatch space, being able to fit two normal sized people in the back, consistent 32-33 mpg (Regular gas with GT), shorter clutch travel (I will probably adjust the one in the FRS so it's not a big deal) and a sunroof. Overall happy with my experience after a month. Just need a short throw and an exhaust like on my Celica and I will be set.

You definitely have to be willing to compromise in those few areas though. I knew that going into it and it's definitely worth it.
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I had a 2002 GT before this. I'm glad I switch for the extra power, easier shifting, lower center of gravity and handling and believe it or, more head space in the front seats. Things I miss are definitely having the hatch space, being able to fit two normal sized people in the back, consistent 32-33 mpg (Regular gas with GT), shorter clutch travel (I will probably adjust the one in the FRS so it's not a big deal) and a sunroof. Overall happy with my experience after a month. Just need a short throw and an exhaust like on my Celica and I will be set.

You definitely have to be willing to compromise in those few areas though. I knew that going into it and it's definitely worth it.
Thank you so much...that was really helpful...Im going to miss having a sunroof for sure but now I can use the excuse...sorry no room in my back seat lol....ugh this kinda sucks about the hatch space...I didnt think of that....what gas mileage do you get now...
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I ave 29.5 miles per gallon. Premium only. Mine is a daily driver mainly highway. I missed my Celica sun roof and space in the back seats. I don't try to fit anyone in the back seats in the FR-S. Lots more cargo space when you lower the back seats opening into the trunk. You will gets alot of attention.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:11 AM   #18
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Thank you so much...that was really helpful...Im going to miss having a sunroof for sure but now I can use the excuse...sorry no room in my back seat lol....ugh this kinda sucks about the hatch space...I didnt think of that....what gas mileage do you get now...
No problem! And ha ya I've used that excuse many times already! Ya honestly the trunk is really shallow. Probably only about 2-2 1/2 feet from bottom to top. The seats do fold down and create space if you have to store something that's longer though. Nothing close to the space in the Celica with the seats down and privacy thing out.

As for gas mileage, I've been getting about 27 with about 60-40 highway (M/T). That gets me around 270-280 per tank. With the same trip in the Celica I would range from 31-33 mpg and could travel around 370-400 miles on a tank(M/T as opposed to the auto which got better MPG like how the FRS are). I am traveling a little more now and have had to fill up 4 times in a month.. The tank in the FRS is smaller though; 13.1 gallons as opposed to 14.5 in the celi.
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No problem! And ha ya I've used that excuse many times already! Ya honestly the trunk is really shallow. Probably only about 2-2 1/2 feet from bottom to top. The seats do fold down and create space if you have to store something that's longer though. Nothing close to the space in the Celica with the seats down and privacy thing out.

As for gas mileage, I've been getting about 27 with about 60-40 highway. That gets me around 270-280 per tank. With the same trip in the Celica I would range from 31-33 mpg and could travel around 370-400 miles on a tank. I am traveling a little more now and have had to fill up 4 times in a month.. The tank in the FRS is smaller though; 13.1 gallons as opposed to 14.5 in the celi.
I was getting about 350 a tank in the gts...but I have a VERY heavy foot...I only filled up 3 times a month...I'm going to have to down grade my 15s to 12s I guess with the trunk space..that's really small...Ill prob have to get a custom made box too...I work really really far, which I never minded since my car was so great on gas..I hate hearing its worse on gas
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I was getting about 350 a tank in the gts...but I have a VERY heavy foot...I only filled up 3 times a month...I'm going to have to down grade my 15s to 12s I guess with the trunk space..that's really small...Ill prob have to get a custom made box too...I work really really far, which I never minded since my car was so great on gas..I hate hearing its worse on gas
Ya I had a single 12in sub and it definitely wouldn't fit with the current box. I would say check out some other forums about what they did with the sub. I believe some took the spare out and some how put it down there. The speakers sound pretty good but do need a little extra bass. And ya I would say my biggest complaint would have to be the gas situation.. I think I will get used to it though because of the greater performance. Would you be getting a M/T or A/T?
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Ya I had a single 12in sub and it definitely wouldn't fit with the current box. I would say check out some other forums about what they did with the sub. I believe some took the spare out and some how put it down there. The speakers sound pretty good but do need a little extra bass. And ya I would say my biggest complaint would have to be the gas situation.. I think I will get used to it though because of the greater performance. Would you be getting a M/T or A/T?
It has to be in blue with manual transmission...lol...and finding one out here has been nothing but a headache...I have a feeling I might have to go out of state..I dont want it in any other color...The insurance is coming to get my car in a few days, theres no doubt its a total loss so I'll have to find one quick...
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My previous car was a 2000 model celica and i don't miss it at all.
The 86/brz is much more fun.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:45 AM   #23
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It has to be in blue with manual transmission...lol...and finding one out here has been nothing but a headache...I have a feeling I might have to go out of state..I dont want it in any other color...The insurance is coming to get my car in a few days, theres no doubt its a total loss so I'll have to find one quick...
Nice! That's exactly what I got. They are really tough to find in blue. I was lucky and found an Ultramarine M/T with fog lights and a spoiler at the Auto Group I work at (Marketing not sales). Here is a pic the day I got her.. http://imgur.com/td5oJsn Don't worry! You will be able to fine one! Its definitely worth it. Especially being RWD and you live down south and don't have to worry about snow!
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It has to be in blue with manual transmission...lol...and finding one out here has been nothing but a headache...I have a feeling I might have to go out of state..I dont want it in any other color...The insurance is coming to get my car in a few days, theres no doubt its a total loss so I'll have to find one quick...
And I'm sorry to hear about your car.. it's a sad day to see another celi totaled because of an idiot..
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I had a GT-S from 2004-2009. Sometimes wish I still had it. Luckily, the person I sold it to lets me keep in touch with it on facebook lol.





Even though the Celica's interior plastics make it seem cheaper, build quality throughout the car was slightly better being made by Toyota in Japan and its 2ZZ-GE engine was co-engineered with Yamaha (who co-developed the LFA's engine). Same robust engine used in the Matrix and Corolla XRS, Pontiac Vibe GT, and Lotus Elise. The 86 engine and chassis, however, are of Subaru build quality. Which is completely passable, just doesn't feel as bulletproof. But the overall driving feel is better engineered in the 86 plus it looks better. If I had to pick between a Celica and 86, 86 wins.

The community has always been a part of the ownership experience for me and the 86 community is doing pretty well right now. Events go on year round such as 86Fest last weekend.

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Old 09-30-2014, 08:01 AM   #27
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I don't live with the frs on a daily basis because it is my girlfriends car. So I can't comment on all the small things. Other than it makes less squeaking sounds than my GT-S.

But basically take just about everything on the Celica and make it better. Besides the obvious handling ability, I think the frs is a overall more comfortable car to ride in. Stock vs stock the frs has way better take off from stop and get up and go.

My Celica is heavily modified so it is hard to recall a lot stock vs stock. But one thing I still can not get used to is how light the clutch feels on the frs. And I still want to feel the lift kick in.
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Sorry to talk down on your car that you've loved for so long but FR-S>celica everytime for me. The celica is crap in comparison. It might have had a more refined interior but when you throw in mechanical and performance aspects + driving feel, it wins every time in my book.
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