Objective Choice Of Coilovers Impossible

[000 Racing]

I know of a suspension Guru who is well known by everyone in the racing scene within Oz ... I decided to finally pay the premium for his shocks because he has put his name behind them. This is backed by a couple of racing legends that have also put their name behind his.. I don't know anything more than you have to trust someone..

..... better that someone is well known for the highest quality and vouched for..

The BC's got it rolling but at our level of competition it's time to move on and up

Everyone likes to think they have made the right choice ... this choice is often aided by those with a financial interest in the decision !!!

No Brand here ... those that know who will know what were are running.. I expect to see an instant improvement ...

[GTB/ZR-1]

I've got Motion Controls & really, really like them. Top-quality, respond well to subtle adjustments & street ride quality is excellent. High speed wheel control is also excellent.

I've owned KWs & JRZs as well, on other cars. I'd have to say the MC setup offers the best performance/price value, overall.

My .02...

[#87]

I felt the same as you with my last car and decided to go cheap since I couldn't make out the difference. Well after having Megans I would never do that again. My plan for this car is stay stock maybe get STi springs for a while and when I get coils I'm going for Ohlins.

[tisb0b]

Originally Posted by 000 Racing

No Brand here ... those that know who will know what were are running.. I expect to see an instant improvement ...

Blue, red or gold?

[EAGLE5]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can put fantastic coilovers on but the wrong settings, tires, tire size, wheels, alignment, rollbar, bushings, air pressure, offset, and more can ruin ride and or handling and or reliability. Hence you hire a pro with a complete package. If you don't live close to one, they can ship.

If you just want it slammed, ignore what I said.

[GC GTS Aero Kit]

Mate I'm in Australia and I have MCA Coilovers and they are great. The have 2 different models for different budgets they are awesome to deal with

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

[rant]
So I've had my struts and coilovers fitted.

MCA reds fitted.

Originally Posted by GC GTS Aero Kit

The have three different models for different budgets

Fixed.

[GC GTS Aero Kit]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

MCA reds fitted.


Fixed.

MCA Gold Series are a custom order not really a different model as such to choose from and unless your Full Track dedicated racing this car I wouldn't imagine financially viable either.

The 2 street / track options they have commercially available are the Blue & Red Series......Blue for a entry coilover and Red for the more serious buyer.

[Captain Snooze]

[pedant]
Blue,Red,Gold = 3
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[EarlQHan]

It's because of cognitive dissonance premium brands rarely get bad reviews. No one wants to feel they wasted 3 months researching, saving money, and spending 4 grand on something they don't like.

It's because ignorance cheap brands get good reviews. Without anything to base their judgement, first-time buyers assume a sporty suspension should be hard. Or they justify it as they get what they pay for, and know that when purchasing.

Even then, ride is a fairly subjective matter. If you want to remain objective, you need to know the system, which can be different from car-to-car because it is based on tire, corner weight, and spring rate. If you are looking at a more macro picture, it may need to control pitch because of aero sensitivity, or roll angle, etc. Most people assume because a damper dyno graph exists, the company is putting in the time to find the "right" curve, but it's just like an engine dyno. Just because you strap the car and get a graph, doesn't mean you have the right tune.

It's not a 100% black-and-white matter, so you won't ever get a cut-and-dry answer. As RCE and CSG have said, do research, get physical experience, and find something right for you. Whether it just checks off the boxes of things that it needs to do (height adjustment, damping adjustment, ride quality, or whatever it may be) or to cut down lap times (no matter what doohickeys it has) or needs to meet a certain budget, find something that you will ultimately be satisfied with.

[Captain Snooze]

Are the units I fitted "better" than original? Yes. Am I happy with my purchase? Yes!
WIN!

[Jackson]

Originally Posted by RYU

I should add... expensive coilovers can also ride like rocks as well

Ask me how I know... It's not like the old days where quality typically translates into high cost. There are expensive coilovers out there I frankly think are sh*t. But hey.. that's just my $0.02

Have you tried working with said company to help resolve your issues? All I've seen are complaints and bashing from you. I really don't understand why if you only have 2 miles on the coilovers.

Originally Posted by RYU

These were test fitted on my car and have the ride height set perfect at a 1" drop all around. Then took some pictures and taken off. It literally has maybe 2 miles worth of driving on it.

You're entitled to your own opinion but I think you may be jumping the gun without giving the company a chance to make things right (if they were wrong).

[xwd]

Now that I've got them adjusted somewhat properly I'm a big fan of the MCS (Motion Control) shocks I'm using. I'm using them with the stock springs but they are still "coilovers" so to speak.

The quality of the machining and parts is pretty incredible, they work well in both low and high speed damping, the adjustments make real noticeable changes, and the support from MCS and their dealers is very good. They also maintain adequate shock travel and I think even on the single-adjustable models you can change the gas pressure in the shock.

[RYU]

Originally Posted by Jackson

Have you tried working with said company to help resolve your issues? All I've seen are complaints and bashing from you. I really don't understand why if you only have 2 miles on the coilovers.



You're entitled to your own opinion but I think you may be jumping the gun without giving the company a chance to make things right (if they were wrong).

wow... simply wow. complaints and bashing? really? a bit self centered of you to think i'm even talking about Eibach here. If you'd like to bring in our private emails with Mark and yourself then please, let's do that. I won't initiate that for your benefit.....

You guys need to work on your online etiquette. No one has mentioned your company publicly but since you're opening Pandora's box...

For your sake, and since I truly do support American companies, and ultimately want to see you guys succeed and produce a great product, let me suffice to say that i'm giving your company an opportunity to make improvements with my time being spent which btw, i'm not getting any compensation for nor do I expect any. I was hoping to deal with this quickly but it looks like i'm in for the long haul. FUN.. yay for me.............

I challenge you to look back and read my post history and you tell me if any blatant finger pointing has occured. Take a chill pill buddy. Have some pride in representing your company and help make it right to folks who are unhappy after spending ~$2k on your product.

This is not my first rodeo... but I certainly don't enjoy the ride and frankly, don't have extra idle time for it!