Report: Supercharged Toyota 86 being developed by TRD!!

[mhj555]

A lot of people are saying that you can't boost much with the 12.5:1 CR. Is that necessarily true when you have direct injection?

Turbo diesel engines, which use a form of direct injection, typically have compression ratios greater than 15:1.

If they tune the direct injection to delay when the fuel is injected, you can avoid detonation. Not sure how that would be different from a diesel, other than the type of fuel, though.

Of course the block has to be able to handle it, but subaru already makes a turbodiesel outside the US, so maybe the FA block can take it.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by syldrin

orly? this i did not know. they probably dropped vortech over the tC issue. this is good news man eaton is good shit.

TRD never dropped Vortech because Vortech wanted NOTHING to do with the 2AZ supercharger. Vortech advised Toyota that a shaft driven centrifugal supercharger was a terrible idea and wouldn't offer any official support or warranty... Toyota bought the parts from Vortech and created a disaster on their own.

[Aki]

Originally Posted by JohnnyR

I'll admit, I laughed, hard. If this car were close to 300hp, turbo, awd, I'd have my money sitting at a dealership right now for this.

And why would you even want that kind of car, considering you already have a ~300hp turbo AWD? If I wanted turbo AWD I'd get a Evo or WRX.

Also what people don't get is that faster =/= more fun. Grippier wider tires for example mean it takes that much more speed/work to get it to break traction. If you think brute speed is what makes a car fun, go buy a used Pontiac (Holden) GTO, or a V6 Mustang.

[mhj555]

Originally Posted by Aki

And why would you even want that kind of car, considering you already have a ~300hp turbo AWD? If I wanted turbo AWD I'd get a Evo or WRX.

Also what people don't get is that faster =/= more fun. Grippier wider tires for example mean it takes that much more speed/work to get it to break traction. If you think brute speed is what makes a car fun, go buy a used Pontiac (Holden) GTO, or a V6 Mustang.

+1
I think Toyota should have built racetracks around the US in preparation for this car, because some people just won't "get it" until they've been around some hairpin turns.

[ryude]

I had Nitto 555R drag radials on my MR2 Turbo and it still spun the tires whenever I wanted it to. Just plain fun.

[TRD_07]

Yes, this could be false information but IMO not to mention that the car doesnt peak at 7,450rpm so it has room for such an upgrade and as for Scion it might be a bolt on upgrade. I am definately waiting for an actual confirmation on this upgrade for a purchase.

[Midnight Run]

nice. But the GT86/BRZ are not built for drags

[JohnnyR]

Originally Posted by Aki

And why would you even want that kind of car, considering you already have a ~300hp turbo AWD? If I wanted turbo AWD I'd get a Evo or WRX.

Also what people don't get is that faster =/= more fun. Grippier wider tires for example mean it takes that much more speed/work to get it to break traction. If you think brute speed is what makes a car fun, go buy a used Pontiac (Holden) GTO, or a V6 Mustang.

My Evo is old now and I'm getting bored of it though it's modded out a bit making more power and handling a bit better, and I would either have to turn it into a dedicated track/rally machine (go all out on hardcore mods) and would use this new car as my everyday machine, or, would just sell off my Evo and just run this full-time.

More power = faster pulling out of certain turns where you can't carry a high speed into. Pulling harder out of said turns faster = more fun, for me at least.

[ydooby]

"The standard GT 86 needs around 6.8sec and does 143mph."

I thought the 86 already does 0-100km/h in 6.0 seconds?

[ryude]

Originally Posted by Midnight Run

nice. But the GT86/BRZ are not built for drags

Lol, I needed them because I upgraded the turbo and well it just made way too much power. I won't go that route again, learned my lesson

[Z.Tune]

COME ON! GIVE ME THE TURBO!!!

[Z_Rocks]

I read this too.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-e...nce-gt-86.html

[cyde01]

not so sure why tada-san hates turbos so much, but i'm glad for all the power heads that this is happening. i prefer n/a and am quite satisfied with 200hp but there are plenty of people here that have been clamoring for more.

[youngxlos]

Originally Posted by mhj555

A lot of people are saying that you can't boost much with the 12.5:1 CR. Is that necessarily true when you have direct injection?

Turbo diesel engines, which use a form of direct injection, typically have compression ratios greater than 15:1.

If they tune the direct injection to delay when the fuel is injected, you can avoid detonation. Not sure how that would be different from a diesel, other than the type of fuel, though.

Of course the block has to be able to handle it, but subaru already makes a turbodiesel outside the US, so maybe the FA block can take it.

if you are going to go with a different block why not just build the block that came with the car? seems dumb to me to go and find a different block to handle the boost when you can just build what you already have.

Originally Posted by cyde01

not so sure why tada-san hates turbos so much, but i'm glad for all the power heads that this is happening. i prefer n/a and am quite satisfied with 200hp but there are plenty of people here that have been clamoring for more.

have you ever driven a car with over 200hp? once you get a taste of that power you always want more and more....