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JDLAutoDesign · 03-22-2013, 12:43 AM

Sending it off tomorrow to Lee so he can draw it up. Looking to do nice billet fuel rails for the port injectors as well

Brzzee · 03-22-2013, 01:03 AM

Don't quite understand the pictures in post 194. Catastrophic failure of manifold and case. Is this failure driving an intake manifold material design change? If so, what caused the short block failure and how does that apply to a manifold redesign?

Thanks for keeping us current with your project.

JDLAutoDesign · 03-22-2013, 01:09 AM

It was a joke. Blew up the engine due to a melted wastegate line. Pulled the intake mani to closer asses the damage. Since it was off we thought we should upgrade

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civicdrivr · 03-22-2013, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLAutoDesign

It was a joke. Blew up the engine due to a melted wastegate line. Pulled the intake mani to closer asses the damage. Since it was off we thought we should upgrade

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I thought something looked....ummm....not right.

Supermassive · 03-22-2013, 01:16 AM

So just how destroyed are we talking? You guys already got a source for a long block? Or are the heads fine? I heard about this happening from some guys at Vivid and I didn't 100% believe them but after seeing the pic I was a little sad.

JDLAutoDesign · 03-22-2013, 01:26 AM

We got another complete longblock on the way so it will back up soon

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Tansey86 · 03-22-2013, 01:35 AM

So how loud is this car with a single exit and 2 EWGs? lol. Probably ear destroying

JDLAutoDesign · 03-22-2013, 01:37 AM

Actually quieter than the NA setup. 5130 is an awesome muffler

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OrbitalEllipses · 03-22-2013, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr

I thought something looked....ummm....not right.

Yeah...I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at, but I knew it wasn't good. You shouldn't see the crankshaft when you take off the manifold, LOL!

rusty959 · 03-22-2013, 03:00 AM

Do you guys have any more data to share about what happened surrounding the event of failure?
Did the melted wastegate line cause a boost spike I presume? How high did it go, and was the failure caused by detonation etc from the engine reaching parameters that weren't being tuned for or was it something else?
Along with probably everyone else I am curious to be seeing what kind of limits can be found with this platform.
Regardless good work, I enjoyed watching your build.

JDLAutoDesign · 03-22-2013, 03:14 AM

Im not sure if data loggin was still on after the tune was done. Our tuner hosted the shootout so hes been pretty busy. Once things calm down we will get all that figured out but yes it did overboost and we do assume it was past the limits of the tune/fueling. We were only aiming for 400hp and made that

Floggin Tires · 03-22-2013, 03:23 AM

Shitty. I've seen ruined engine because of a melted/broken/loose/leaking wastgate line

Also some that never got hooked up! People in their home garage.

Well, the only bright side to this is.
The engine failed because of infinite boost.
Not infinite, but all the snail could put out.
Shit happens. This will only make this build better!
Sorry for your losses.

I'm sure this thread is about be viral.
You might start a new one that explains easy before you get...
10million What happends, and so forth.

Keep us updated thanks for being open with your progress.

Hawaiian · 03-22-2013, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLAutoDesign

Im not sure if data loggin was still on after the tune was done. Our tuner hosted the shootout so hes been pretty busy. Once things calm down we will get all that figured out but yes it did overboost and we do assume it was past the limits of the tune/fueling. We were only aiming for 400hp and made that

If it was on, that would be a data goldmine for the community.

XPR Small Block · 03-22-2013, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLAutoDesign

Working on an intake manifold now :p

what happend besides waste gate fail? lose a rod?

03-22-2013, 01:03 AM	#198
Brzzee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ WRBP Limited 6MT. Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 441 Thanks: 271 Thanked 108 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Don't quite understand the pictures in post 194. Catastrophic failure of manifold and case. Is this failure driving an intake manifold material design change? If so, what caused the short block failure and how does that apply to a manifold redesign? Thanks for keeping us current with your project. __________________ - When men make plans the gods laugh.

03-22-2013, 03:00 AM	#206
rusty959 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ limited Location: Indiana Posts: 366 Thanks: 98 Thanked 147 Times in 95 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you guys have any more data to share about what happened surrounding the event of failure? Did the melted wastegate line cause a boost spike I presume? How high did it go, and was the failure caused by detonation etc from the engine reaching parameters that weren't being tuned for or was it something else? Along with probably everyone else I am curious to be seeing what kind of limits can be found with this platform. Regardless good work, I enjoyed watching your build. __________________

03-22-2013, 03:23 AM	#208
Floggin Tires Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: ZC6, Junk of ALL sorts Location: Ohio Posts: 516 Thanks: 111 Thanked 288 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Shitty. I've seen ruined engine because of a melted/broken/loose/leaking wastgate line Also some that never got hooked up! People in their home garage. Well, the only bright side to this is. The engine failed because of infinite boost. Not infinite, but all the snail could put out. Shit happens. This will only make this build better! Sorry for your losses. I'm sure this thread is about be viral. You might start a new one that explains easy before you get... 10million What happends, and so forth. Keep us updated thanks for being open with your progress. __________________ # 1. Always know where your towel is. ZC6-CBS, is home

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03-22-2013, 12:43 AM	#197
JDLAutoDesign Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 1,827 Thanks: 389 Thanked 1,437 Times in 652 Posts Mentioned: 104 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Sending it off tomorrow to Lee so he can draw it up. Looking to do nice billet fuel rails for the port injectors as well

03-22-2013, 01:09 AM	#199
JDLAutoDesign Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 1,827 Thanks: 389 Thanked 1,437 Times in 652 Posts Mentioned: 104 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It was a joke. Blew up the engine due to a melted wastegate line. Pulled the intake mani to closer asses the damage. Since it was off we thought we should upgrade Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-22-2013, 01:26 AM	#202
JDLAutoDesign Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 1,827 Thanks: 389 Thanked 1,437 Times in 652 Posts Mentioned: 104 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	We got another complete longblock on the way so it will back up soon Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-22-2013, 01:35 AM	#203
Tansey86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2003 Subaru Outback Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,318 Thanks: 154 Thanked 529 Times in 300 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So how loud is this car with a single exit and 2 EWGs? lol. Probably ear destroying

03-22-2013, 01:37 AM	#204
JDLAutoDesign Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 1,827 Thanks: 389 Thanked 1,437 Times in 652 Posts Mentioned: 104 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Actually quieter than the NA setup. 5130 is an awesome muffler Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-22-2013, 03:14 AM	#207
JDLAutoDesign Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 1,827 Thanks: 389 Thanked 1,437 Times in 652 Posts Mentioned: 104 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Im not sure if data loggin was still on after the tune was done. Our tuner hosted the shootout so hes been pretty busy. Once things calm down we will get all that figured out but yes it did overboost and we do assume it was past the limits of the tune/fueling. We were only aiming for 400hp and made that

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