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Yes we will. We have some new mufflers in route as well so will def get sound clips
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Awesome. Thank you sir.
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Sound clips with the UEL header and a plotted graph like Borla did with EL vs UEL to see if there are any real differences. Your header quality is outstanding and I can't wait to see/hear the UEL.
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Bump for UEL?
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Working on them in between orders. Should have some updates next week
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Would love to see the dyno comparison on the EL vs UEL to see if the results are similar to what Borla saw. Not enough samples out there to come to a full conclusion yet.
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The only thing that will be changed on the dyno will be the header. You will see the comparison between the 3 full system dynos
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UEL and Turbo kit bump
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SOrry guys we are waiting in P/T engineer to finish modeling the collector/flow of the UEL header. Will post some data up when he gets done
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Being patient is failing miserably :P
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Just finished the models this weekend so we will be building the UEL asap with results ect
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In my mind, the merge collector can make or break the success of the header design. If the collector design is effective, it can reduce the upstream exhaust pressure (for a given flow rate) and thus reduce parasitic losses associated with a cylinder having to "pump" out it's own exhaust. Obviously harmonic tuning plays an important role in cylinder evacuation, but the strongest exhaust harmonics are primarily tuned by runner length. A good merge collector can also minimize the mixing losses associated with 4 out of phase cylinders entering a common passage. I'll spare most of the analysis details unless people are particularly interested, in which case I would be happy to elaborate. The gist of it is, I designed several collector profiles and then compared the resulting flow fields to the "baseline" collector design that has already been built and tested. I repeated these CFD runs for a range of exhaust flow rates to see if the benefits I found were across the board or only at a specific operating point. When I say a "benefit", I'm referring to reduced pressure losses across the collector. This benefit will be realized via reduced backpressure to the exhausting cylinders (and hopefully more power!). Here is my model of the baseline collector: ![]() The figure shows contours of X-Direction Velocity. The most obvious loss sources here are the large separation regions (dark blue) downstream of the collector throat and the wake that forms in the mid passage from the boundary layer of the inner wall. An obvious way to reduce the pressure loss is to reduce the wall slope on the expanding section of the collector. Here is a model of the baseline collector with half of the expanding wall slope: ![]() Overall, these are very similar results. The longer collector with the shallower wall angle has roughly ~2% less pressure loss than the baseline with no other changes. It also has a more uniform flow field in the center of the passage, caused by a reduced diffusion rate and less separation blockage... so definitely a step in the right direction. I have ran several other simulations that I am still post processing, but I think we have already seen enough to influence our next collector design. I'll edit this post very soon with the results of the remaining designs ![]() Edit - I thought I would add this one also. In this model I am starting with the baseline collector and the only thing I have done is added a 1" long constant diameter gap between the converging and diverging segments of the collector. The idea behind this analysis is that gains could be had by "turning" the flow in two steps as opposed to a single, large change in wall slope. In an ideal world, I would be able to use curved walls and fine tune the collector design... but such a design would have to be cast and would be a long lead, expensive item. By adding an additional segment to the diffuser we are trying to accomplish a similar effect... ![]() As far as losses are concerned, this model provides about a 3% pressure loss reduction as compared to the baseline... so even better than just reducing the wall slope
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