First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17)

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Actually now that I think about it the Scion tC doesn't have a rear wiper





So it is possible they skip a wiper (I hope they don't).

the gen coupe looks like a hatch but is not!


and the FT has few black tape to hide the shocks.


EDIT* by the way that's one nice looking GC.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by fernan2

the gen coupe looks like a hatch but is not!

Yep it is too early to tell until we get more evidence. There are examples from current cars supporting that they could go either way; traditional trunk vs. hatch.

As a side note, look at the tight angle on the GC, I would hate to have to angle in wheels to put them in or take them out. It would be fine, but not as easy as it could be.

[iff2mastamatt]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yep it is too early to tell until we get more evidence. There are examples from current cars supporting that they could go either way; traditional trunk vs. hatch.

As a side note, look at the tight angle on the GC, I would hate to have to angle in wheels to put them in or take them out. It would be fine, but not as easy as it could be.

Didn't the Scion VP insist that the FR-S could fit a set of track tires in the vehicle? If the rear seats fold flat, it shouldn't be a problem.

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt

Didn't the Scion VP insist that the FR-S could fit a set of track tires in the vehicle? If the rear seats fold flat, it shouldn't be a problem.

they did indeed

but talk is cheap

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

but talk is cheap

+10

[xantonin]

I'm okay with skipping the rear wiper. It's almost useless in the rain anyway since as you drive the rain barely touches the rear window. This is at least the case with my Celica.

However, the rear wiper DOES come in handy in snowy areas. I had to use mine in SLC a few times.

[iff2mastamatt]

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

they did indeed

but talk is cheap

Well, he BETTER not be lying. We'll be out to get him .

[WingsofWar]

thanks for the additional pics Hachi, i see some dimensions and details that i wasn't able to before.

[jayjayjayjay]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Any info on what the Toyota head will consist of besides D4-S?

Not yet. I haven't seen it and as far as I know no-one in the US has yet. Will post as soon as have info. Confirmed this morning FB20 but will confirm on eyeballing it. I'm hoping FB25. Expect direct injection, but again will confirm.

[Godzilla35]

correct me if i'm wrong... but the scion presentation said 4 wheels + jack WITH the seats folded down... which I can ALMOST do with my g35 coupe... I don't doubt that a hatch / lift-back is possible, but I doubt it just because of the lines of the "trunk"

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by Godzilla35

correct me if i'm wrong... but the scion presentation said 4 wheels + jack WITH the seats folded down... which I can ALMOST do with my g35 coupe... I don't doubt that a hatch / lift-back is possible, but I doubt it just because of the lines of the "trunk"

That's what I though too and looking from the inside there is a cover like a behind the passenger seats instead of an open area that many hatchbacks have.
But there are hatchbacks that have a "trunk" on them that lifts up with the hatch so I'm still not 100% certain.

I've never heard it called anything but a coupe officially if that means anything.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

That's what I though too and looking from the inside there is a cover like a behind the passenger seats instead of an open area that many hatchbacks have.
But there are hatchbacks that have a "trunk" on them that lifts up with the hatch so I'm still not 100% certain.

I've never heard it called anything but a coupe officially if that means anything.

I don't know either, but they should make a body style called SHOOTING BRAKE.

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

Look at the front door window and the big side mirrors.

2012 Impreza.

Between that funky double side window, the headlights, the fog light cluster, and the tail lights, I would probably guess that this [insert latest term here] is probably the Subaru version. Those oddly round headlights and tails seem more subaruish than Toyota/Scion. The foglight cluster and the window setup are very similar to what is already in other Subaru models.

I personally like the MKII concept the best and hope that's what it comes out looking like but even if it only comes close, just like with other cars, we can replace the wheels, fenders, hood, etc etc to suit our taste.

Either way, it doesn't really matter which version they're testing as what's underneath is going to be the same. We've waited this long, be patient until we see what the final product actually looks like.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

That's what I though too and looking from the inside there is a cover like a behind the passenger seats instead of an open area that many hatchbacks have.
But there are hatchbacks that have a "trunk" on them that lifts up with the hatch so I'm still not 100% certain.

It could go either way as evidenced by Celica and Scion tC using a hatchback w/ trunk lid or a traditional trunk like the Hyundai GC. Either options will be possible. We will just have to wait and see.