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Old 08-22-2012, 06:27 AM   #15
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Everything off for normal driving; Sport Mode when wet. Sticky street tires play havoc with the traction/stability system on normal mode and there is a difference in how the car feels and responds to throttle and steering as well when everything is not off.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:55 AM   #16
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First thing I do after I start the engine I press VSC Sport.
It is more than safe for daily driving IMO. I would say it is even more intrusive for my taste than it could have been. But it allows having little fun without endangering others and having peace of mind if something goes wrong.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:08 AM   #17
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For day to day driving, I just leave them on. I see no reason to turn them off, imo.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:19 AM   #18
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I like to turn them all off and then yell to anyone within earshot "hey, watch this!"...
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:24 AM   #19
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You make a few assumptions here.

1) That people turning off these features are doing so simply to drive recklessly.

2) That people turning off these features are incapable of driving safely without them.

3) That people turning off these features did not grow up driving more powerful RWD cars without them.
Judging from the mentality and maturity of a lot of folks here, those are pretty solid assumptions...
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:13 AM   #20
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I leave them on... for now, but I'm still getting used to the car.

The systems so far on the FR-S seem very well tuned and generally keep to themselves. I don't think I've ever driven an American car where the traction control seemed like it was tuned for that car. It always feels like they just took it off the shelf and bolted it in and the result is a system that cuts in drastically and WAY before it's needed.

Once I get some practice time testing out the car's limits safely, I will probably still leave them on unless I've got a good reason to take them off. I can't imagine I'll ever hop into the car and turn the nannies off every time.

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Old 08-22-2012, 10:18 AM   #21
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A fair point about driving experience with technology free older cars, but in general I'd argue that we're better of with the vehicle control than without. It's all about percentages, and the vast majority of drivers (and the public in general) will benefit from rather than be hindered by using it. At the end of the day, it's all about being competent, observant, and careful drivers.
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I like to turn them all off and then yell to anyone within earshot "hey, watch this!"...
Do you then tell your passenger to "Hold my beer."?
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Do you then tell your passenger to "Hold my beer."?
Exactly! Cause there's no damn good cup holder!
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:31 PM   #24
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Do you then tell your passenger to "Hold my beer."?
how the hell can i drink it if my passenger is holding it?
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I try to crash the car everytime I start her up.

Seriously, I leave the aids on as I'm still learning the dynamics of RWD instead of just reading about it. Also, saves my tires a bit when I use the on ramps.
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I run with both of them on unless I want to kick out the back end then I will put it in sport mode. Was in a huge parking lot the other day when there was a crazy thunderstorm, no one was around so I shut everything off to try to drift a little more aggressively. After doing two full 480's accidentely I was able to get a better feel for it but was glad the sport mode gives you so much control while still having fun. I left promptly after that

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I learned on old heavy RWD cars, I drive two big ass trucks, mostly in 2WD in the snow and ice, only ever using 4WD in the worst weather.

I leave all the nannies on.

It's the same as the previous post about airbags, just because my old cars didn't have them, I'm not disabling mine on the BRZ. It's a safety feature that COULD prevent death. Why the feck would I turn that off to go buy groceries?

If it becomes intrusive, and you KNOW you are being safe about where/when/how you are driving, kill the TC and leave VSC on, that's reasonable. Killing all of it to buy a burger at McD's? Not even smart.

What if that one trip has a random dude pull out and you over-correct with it off? You'd have avoided an accident because of that technology, regardless of driving skill. Emergencies don't have guaranteed reactions on your part, regardless of skill/experience.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:06 PM   #28
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I put the car in VSC sport mode every time I get into the car.
Perhaps I drive a bit crazy, but when the car isn't in VSC sport mode I seem to hit the nannies all the time.
This is the first car I have ever owned that had traction control or stability control and my first 3 cars I ever owned were all V8 powered RWD cars/trucks.
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