What if I'm not interested in drifting?

[JD001]

The GT86 is more tail happy.. The Scion FRS is more kid friendly and the BRZeee is an under steering pig.

I suggest you get yourself Honda Civic with 'drift mode' as this will give you more options as to when you want to drift or not..

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by KR-S

I've had more problems with understeer in my FR-S than oversteer, honestly, if that helps, though, depending on what BRZ you buy you may or may not have the same experience as I do.

As long as all aides are turned on and you aren't driving like an idiot, you should be fine.

Oversteer is never a problem for me...

[Spuds]

OP, you will be fine. It's a well-balanced car (I'm sure there will be a heated discussion about what that means shortly) and it is very forgiving. It's a great car for just driving, just note that giving it a boot-ful of gas in a turn may cause oversteer.

How much is a boot-ful you ask? Well, go find an open space make a 90 degree turn and hit the gas to find out

[RToyo86]

Originally Posted by JD001

The GT86 is more tail happy.. The Scion FRS is more kid friendly and the BRZeee is an under steering pig.

I suggest you get yourself Honda Civic with 'drift mode' as this will give you more options as to when you want to drift or not..

Aren't the spring rates still softer in front vs rear on BRZ?
Just closer to the same front and back for a more neutral feel in corners.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Spuds

(I'm sure there will be a heated discussion about what that means shortly)

I will fight you.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Suapak

Well this is getting to be off topic but thank you for info. I am thinking about the used one like from 2015. I heard there are also differences between 2013+/2015+/2017+.

Well you ain't sen us get off topic yet!

Originally Posted by Suapak

Sadly I have just regular Lancer not the Evo. Impreza was the WRX so it might makes the difference between them.
Ok thank you. You gave me a lot of useful information.

As the previous owner of three top trim Lancers (not Evos) I can assure you with 100% confidence this is ten times the car and you will not accidently "drift" unless you are really pushing it. Forget that it is RWD since most of what you hear about driving one is pure myth created by generations used to FWD.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

@Suapak, I have approaching 175,000 miles on my 86, nearly all of it commuting.

If you've ever driven a rear wheel drive car you'll be fine, because it acts like a rear wheel drive car. Now, mind you that is likely the type of car your Mother, Grandmother and Great Grandmother drove, without the electronic nannies so even if you haven't driven one, you'll be fine.

If you push hard on the throttle in a turn will the rear-end move? Yes, but so will any other RWD car. In fact, a lot of people use the throttle to help steer in that situation.

Can the rear-end break loss if you are too aggressive? Probably not, unless you've turned all the safeguards off.

Can you make it do really tight doughnuts in the snow? Absolutely and I encourage it when no one is looking.

Can you drift it? Yes, but it has to be on purpose. I've actually drifted my Suburban more than the 86 because I try to drive it the same way as I do the 86. Doesn't work in my favor.

Can you drive it in the snow like a sane individual? Yes. I've even done it on summer tires, though I don't recommend it to anyone, including me. Necessity is sometime the mother of stupidity.

@Tcoat can tell you about using it as a snowplow though, because really what I call snow is mostly ice down here.

With REAL snow tires (not "performance" ones or supposed All Season) these things are a tank in the snow. I have had to stop in deep snow and push AWD cars out of my way to get down some streets.

[Lantanafrs2]

I wasn't interested in being beaten by minivans but I went to e85 so I can give the bastards a run for their money

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I wasn't interested in being beaten by minivans but I went to e85 so I can give the bastards a run for their money

But they do to!

[ToySub1946]

I'm driving a 2015 FRS (aka Subaru) with manual transmisssion.

I'm 73 years old and this is the best fuckin car I've ever owned.

It's rear end did tend to slip when it's tires were almost balled at 48,000 miles. And that was on pavement which was almost all tar with no rock or pebbles in it.

The only time it seemed to wander very slightly at freeway speeds was when the tires were very new, car very new also. Tires not yet broken in.

Best over the road, road trip car I've ever owned.

I tried one on and it fit immediately so I bought one as soon as I could afford it.

Similar to an Italian shoe I'd say.

Don't forget to buy one.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

But they do to!

Fuck. I knew it. Mustang time

[TommyW]

Drifting is SLOWWWWW. Learn to drive it properly.

[HaXx]

sorry

[Tcoat]

Just to be sure we have the right terminolgy going here.


This is drifting



This is a SKID


This is just dumb.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Just to be sure we have the right terminolgy going here.


This is drifting



This is a SKID


This is just dumb.

Moral of the story, Dodge Vipers kill people, go drifting instead!