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PetrolioBenzina · 08-20-2020, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

Never stated it was a secret. I just searched and couldn't find anywhere in this forum that verified the information I was looking for.
Now it is, and now I know.

Didn't mean to be rude, sorry.

FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

Didn't mean to be rude, sorry.

It did sound a bit rude, but I'm no snowflake so I let it slide. Your apology, although not entirely necessary, is accepted.

Brz-123 · 08-20-2020, 04:35 AM

If you want more detail, you are right for the US models.
For EU , the manifold change did not happen even in manual models.

The manifold change ( not the plastic cover on top) plus some other internal changes led to an increase of 5BHP and 5NM on the new manuals (17 onwards).
Google up changes to 2017 MY, you will find a load more changes made.

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FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brz-123

If you want more detail, you are right for the US models.
For EU , the manifold change did not happen even in manual models.

The manifold change ( not the plastic cover on top) plus some other internal changes led to an increase of 5BHP and 5NM on the new manuals (17 onwards).
Google up changes to 2017 MY, you will find a load more changes made.

Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk

Thank you. I have added that bit of information to the summary list.

Tcoat · 08-20-2020, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

Thank you. I have added that bit of information to the summary list.

BRZ but 99% of the info applies to the 86 as well.
Shows what is and is not different between the pre and post facelift cars and where what is available.

Dadhawk · 08-20-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

BRZ but 99% of the info applies to the 86 as well.
Shows what is and is not different between the pre and post facelift cars and where what is available.

Good reference but the marking hype is strong with this one.

I love the "the underlying shape is the same, but it's lower, wider because we made the front look like its lower wider even though its the same" portion.

Tcoat · 08-20-2020, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Good reference but the marking hype is strong with this one.

I love the "the underlying shape is the same, but it's lower, wider because we made the front look like its lower wider even though its the same" portion.

To be honest all I ever read of it was the technical parts so never really caught the marketing parts. It is really just crib notes for sales guys to sound knowledgeable but at least the data is sound.

MJones_RB · 08-20-2020, 04:13 PM

I had a blue one that was loose (they are all pretty loose) and fell off onto the header heat shield and melted. Luckily I smelled it before it caught fire. What a mess.

FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 04:13 PM

So I read through the file that Tcoat posted and edited the summary one more time and added a picture. It's nice to know the reasons behind the changes that the engineers make. We now have an easily referenced post that explains what I was wanting to know without having to search through an entire PDF document. Thanks Tcoat.

FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MJones_RB

I had a blue one that was loose (they are all pretty loose) and fell off onto the header heat shield and melted. Luckily I smelled it before it caught fire. What a mess.

I've seen pictures of the blue ones. Are they OEM or aftermarket?

Tcoat · 08-20-2020, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

I've seen pictures of the blue ones. Are they OEM or aftermarket?

Did it show blue ones in the info?

FR-S2GT86 · 08-21-2020, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Did it show blue ones in the info?

Sir, I saw no blue ones in the information that YOU provided, which included ONLY a transition from model year 2016 to model year 2017.

Perhaps there were blue engine covers made by the manufacturer in a PREVIOUS model year, or for that matter a model year from 2018 and up. That is the reason why I asked. No need for the sarcasm (If that's what your question to answer my question was). I'm just here to learn from you guys that have owned these cars for much longer than I have, as well as to share the knowledge that I have accumulated during my lifetime on other automobile-related issues.

So, again, I ask (and just to be MORE SPECIFIC): Were there any OEM blue plastic engine covers ever produced for the FA20/4U-GSE engines, or are they manufactured only by aftermarket companies?

PetrolioBenzina · 08-21-2020, 12:31 AM

Tcoat · 08-21-2020, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S2GT86

Sir, I saw no blue ones in the information that YOU provided, which included ONLY a transition from model year 2016 to model year 2017.

Perhaps there were blue engine covers made by the manufacturer in a PREVIOUS model year, or for that matter a model year from 2018 and up. That is the reason why I asked. No need for the sarcasm (If that's what your question to answer my question was). I'm just here to learn from you guys that have owned these cars for much longer than I have, as well as to share the knowledge that I have accumulated during my lifetime on other automobile-related issues.

So, again, I ask (and just to be MORE SPECIFIC): Were there any OEM blue plastic engine covers ever produced for the FA20/4U-GSE engines, or are they manufactured only by aftermarket companies?

Everybody get's one answer to an easily searched question before sarcasm mode kicks in. So you tell US. Is the blue is OEM or aftermarket?

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