CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[nisti]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

^Knowing your alignment numbers would be helpful as well.

Good call.

[cjd]

Can you add front camber? I'd do that first.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by nisti

What is the opinion of @Racecomp Engineering on a size of rear sway bar upgrade for my setup:

RCE Yellows on stock struts
17x9 +35 RPF1
245/40-17 Conti ECDW

Trying to reduce understeer, but not sure if a 16 mm solid bar would be enough to help, or need to go bigger.
If anyone has experience here, let me know!
Here is my current alignment specs:

A 16mm bar will be fine, but I wouldn't go any larger without also adding a front bar.

I don't know those tires well...but a little more front camber would help.

- Andrew

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by cjd

Can you add front camber? I'd do that first.

Add, or subtract?

[churchx]

Given how most advise more negative camber in front and seeing in chart that it's other way around (thus added more grip in rear), imho dialed in more negative front will dial out excessive understeer AND eliminate need for swaybar purchase . Win-win, or -loose to companies making/selling swaybars
If more negative camber in front not possible, try reducing it in rear. Most often i've seen people setting 0.5 less neg. camber in rear for these cars.
P.S.
While adding neg. camber i'd also set front toe to 0deg. Rear toe-in 0.1 can stay as is.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Add, or subtract?

As noted, more negative camber. Typical race settings are -3 to -3.5 if there aren't rules that prevent it (c street SCCA rules, for example)

[renfield90]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Add, or subtract?

Typically when we talk camber we talk in magnitudes rather than absolutes, under the assumption that camber should always be negative i.e. add = more negative camber, remove = less negative camber.

[86Tony]

i have a set of bilstein MDS shocks. bilstein recommend me to use 14k 16k springs what are your thoughts on that.

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

i have a set of bilstein MDS shocks. bilstein recommend me to use 14k 16k springs what are your thoughts on that.

Interested to see the responses to this.

On my motons we've tried lots of different spring rates and have found they definitely seem to work better with higher spring rates.

On the TMG cars they run the Bilsteins with 14/16 springs.

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

Interested to see the responses to this.

On my motons we've tried lots of different spring rates and have found they definitely seem to work better with higher spring rates.

On the TMG cars they run the Bilsteins with 14/16 springs.

yes these are the same shocks as the ones on the TMG cars

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

yes these are the same shocks as the ones on the TMG cars

Definitely be very interested to hear how you get on with them. Will they be solely for track use or road and track?

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

Definitely be very interested to hear how you get on with them. Will they be solely for track use or road and track?

yes just track only. will let you kno once track season starts again

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by 86Tony

yes just track only. will let you kno once track season starts again

Most important question is: What kind of tires do you run?

Also, is your car caged?

- Andrew

[86Tony]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Most important question is: What kind of tires do you run?

Also, is your car caged?

- Andrew

no car is not caged yet will do so in the future. tires i have been just running re71r. i want to run slicks but afraid of the fuel starvation