2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[86fanatic]

Could it be? After 48 pages we are finally out of things to talk about?

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by CyberFormula

i think the issue i have with it is that I DON'T need a new car that offers 2700lb /200hp 2 doors, and low center of gravity.

I've had that once a long time ago...

My point is, if i'm getting one...its going to be used. It isn't THAT special enough to justify 25k.

I brought the type R into the discussion is because..THAT was a total bargain for its class.

FRS - not really a best in its class. What is my money really paying for that is worth 25k? Only up side is that it is NEW. While real FRS competitions are all dead or old.

GTi- that's a bargain because you're buyin an A3 in a sportier characteristic.

Getting a low COG is harder than you think ($$$). If it wasn't everyone would do it and one reason it is reserved for cars that cost many times more than the FRS. The qualities to appreciate in the FRS are subtle and might not be appreciated by everyone. That is ok. That is why there are other brands out there.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by CyberFormula

GTi- that's a bargain because you're buyin an A3 in a sportier characteristic.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Buggy51

Actually I think pricing the FR-S is actually an ingenious marketing scheme by Toyota/Scion to sell more tC's. Think about it, the idea of the new vehicle draws people to the lots so they can oggle and be dazzled by it. They look at the price and gasp in horror then point to the tC. Look! 5k cheaper and looks just as good!

Its kinda like the Versa strategy in reverse... I doubt anyone actually even buys the lowest model, when for just a few k more I can get the better one... ....

I muse...

25k isnt THAT expensive... lol...

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

25k isnt THAT expensive... lol...

Judging by everything ive read in the last little while it sounds like you'd need to make 6 figures to afford that......

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

Could it be? After 48 pages we are finally out of things to talk about?

Well...

Scion vs Toyota has been discussed.
Auto HVAC/Push button start/HID's vs none has run its course.
Sticker shocker has been done to death.
Speed seems to be dying down.
Hatch vs Trunk could potentially spark a new war.
And i think Stock tires vs better tires might be a new one coming up also.

[Buggy51]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

tC looks just as good?

The pain! I grovel and ask for mercy for saying such things!

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Matador

STFU n00b.

What a witty comeback - you must feel so proud of yourself!

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Getting a low COG is harder than you think ($$$). If it wasn't everyone would do it and one reason it is reserved for cars that cost many times more than the FRS. The qualities to appreciate in the FRS are subtle and might not be appreciated by everyone. That is ok. That is why there are other brands out there.

Eh Mazda did it for less

[brewksy]

Originally Posted by CyberFormula

I brought the type R into the discussion is because..THAT was a total bargain for its class.

You mean the Integra Type R? The one that cost $24450 in 2001? That would cost $32000 in today's equivalent? That bargain? Or some other car?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

[switchlanez]

^Ouch.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Judging by everything ive read in the last little while it sounds like you'd need to make 6 figures to afford that......

??? really last time i checked i made mid 5 figures and its easily affordable

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Ahahaaa....why so serious? It was a simple question. I don't see the benefits of the GC over an FR-S. And if weight was ok, then I don't see the benefit of a GC over the Mustang.





You are really going to argue about 25lbs just because of the amount of gas?

That means you have clearly never driven the Mustang and GC in comparison. It sits higher than a GC and its hood blocks everything out the windshield . Its boxy nature works against it and it doesn't feel driver oriented when I sit in it. The GC feels just like my RSX and the FRS from sitting inside. The only difference is the FRS sits a bit lower and is obviously smaller. So I like the feel of cars like my RSX with a low slung front to rear body. Low slung GT Sports style > Boxy anyday of the week.

Also I wasn't arguing about the 25 lbs. Some people believe that's what the car will weigh with a full tank and I didn't want people to be confused. Any car can weigh less than its curb weight with gas missing.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

??? really last time i checked i made mid 5 figures and its easily affordable

He was being sarcastic. I still don't think that's how people see it though. They just don't think its worth that much. I used to think the S2000 was overpriced until I realize it was gunning for the boxster at 12k cheaper. But the FRS is a bargain vs the S2K and the Cayman but people are not seeing it that way.