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Old 03-22-2014, 01:03 AM   #421
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Logs look a little on the lean side. Nothing dangerous at all but you can run richer without loosing power. Give the Stage 2 map a try. The exhaust and high-flow cat you have may just be needing the extra fuel that the Stage 2 EL map will give you
WOW.. STAGE 2 is a different beast. I will give it some more time to learn then get another data log for viewing. How awesome would it be if these tune could run on a stock header as long as the OP/DP is replaced with high flow cat?

from looking at the diagnostics while driving the IAM rock solid at 1. lol.. thats about all I can really see while screaming down the road above 5k.

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Here is my datalog for my dyno run today:

http://www.datazap.me/u/toy-sooby/dyno-run

Did 4 x 4th gear runs (know it should have been 3rd but forgot to tell the person).

I got a peak power of 114.2kw atw which I know should have been higher, but I only ran the tune for like 20 mins after I flashed it before the dyno...

Overall, torque curve is pretty much gone and power is almost perfectly linear.

I have Revworks UEL, Perrin front pipe catted and Perrin catback, drop in filter K&N.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jq5ab1cf74vy18c/dyno.jpg

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Here is my datalog for my dyno run today:

http://www.datazap.me/u/toy-sooby/dyno-run

Did 4 x 4th gear runs (know it should have been 3rd but forgot to tell the person).

I got a peak power of 114.2kw atw which I know should have been higher, but I only ran the tune for like 20 mins after I flashed it before the dyno...

Overall, torque curve is pretty much gone and power is almost perfectly linear.

I have Revworks UEL, Perrin front pipe catted and Perrin catback, drop in filter K&N.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jq5ab1cf74vy18c/dyno.jpg

You have same issues as I do on 98 RON fuel, low rpm high load FBCK and also knock at 5000-7000 rpm if you look at your kc learned values its pulling at least 2 to 3 degrees in the high rpm areas which is likely the cause a power reduction.

I had much better results with united 100 octane.

are you on shell caltex or bp 98 ??

My local servo is shell so i.ve only used shell 98 or united 100
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You have same issues as I do on 98 RON fuel, low rpm high load FBCK and also knock at 5000-7000 rpm if you look at your kc learned values its pulling at least 2 to 3 degrees in the high rpm areas which is likely the cause a power reduction.

I had much better results with united 100 octane.

are you on shell caltex or bp 98 ??

My local servo is shell so i.ve only used shell 98 or united 100

My last tank had a bit of shell left in it before I filled with BP98. But even still BP can vary between petrol stations.
What can be done about these? I am pretty noob at all this.
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My last tank had a bit of shell left in it before I filled with BP98. But even still BP can vary between petrol stations.
What can be done about these? I am pretty noob at all this.
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mate I am no expert either

If you on BP 98 well that kind of proves it I am on shell and other oz people have same problem on caltex 98

I pulled a bit of timing in my map between 2000-3000 rpm and it stopped a large part of the knock in that area and stopped the IAM dropping below 1 on 98.

As I got better logging and logged fine learning knock as well as feed back knock noticed the knock in the higher rpm range as well 5000-7000 when I went back to 98 fuel from united 100 octane.

It appears our 98 RON is not as good as 93 AKI (USA) fuel that the maps were calibrated on.

I don't believe its going to detonate a motor as the ecu is managing the knock, and looking at my earlier logs the stock tune knocked in both areas as well on 98 fuel.

Basicly either use 100RON fuel or pull more timing in the higher rpm range.
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he has some minor fbck in the 2000-3200 range about what I had on 100 ron
Steve is it possible to eliminate it, maybe pulling -0.35 timings in few low rpm area? Not that I'm really concerned... I never go WOT at 2000-3000 rpm
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You have same issues as I do on 98 RON fuel, low rpm high load FBCK and also knock at 5000-7000 rpm if you look at your kc learned values its pulling at least 2 to 3 degrees in the high rpm areas which is likely the cause a power reduction.

I had much better results with united 100 octane.

are you on shell caltex or bp 98 ??

My local servo is shell so i.ve only used shell 98 or united 100
I still don't understand how to read KC Learned Values, how do you see it's pulling 2-3 degrees?
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I still don't understand how to read KC Learned Values, how do you see it's pulling 2-3 degrees?
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Logs look a little on the lean side. Nothing dangerous at all but you can run richer without loosing power. Give the Stage 2 map a try. The exhaust and high-flow cat you have may just be needing the extra fuel that the Stage 2 EL map will give you
ok here it is my data log using your Stg 2 EL header tune with my stock header and the nameless OP/DP 1 piece high flow cat and 5" cat back exhaust. How does it look?
http://www.datazap.me/u/boofneenee/s...e?log=0&data=1

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So rookie question.

What file do i need to upload to the OFT if i have UEL headers, overpipe test pipe q300 on 91 gas?

There is a lot of stage 2 uel maps, im confuse beyond believe
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What file do i need to upload to the OFT if i have UEL headers, overpipe test pipe q300 on 91 gas?

There is a lot of stage 2 uel maps, im confuse beyond believe
Don't be its easy. First you need to identify your cars correct rom number. Once you know which rom type simply open the folder that has the words Stg2 UEL (your rom type) and thats your file to upload to your tablet. I'm pretty sure you cannot accidentally upload the wrong rom file to your car. The program wont let you.

Their is a video on youtube if you look.

You will not find a tune that lists your specific mods. Your only concern is the UEL header. If your running normal pump gas do not upload E85
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I still don't understand how to read KC Learned Values, how do you see it's pulling 2-3 degrees?

Open you tune file in RR, go to the "Knock correction advance max A" table

If no knock KC learned should match the values in the table at each RPM/load point. Knock indicated by KC learned value being less than value in table.

Can be due to IAM less than one and/or FLCK (which OFT does not monitor) is active. So if your IAM is 1 and KC learned less than values in table you have knock most likely FLCK

OFT only monitors FBCK (knock correction) and KC learned.
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Steve is it possible to eliminate it, maybe pulling -0.35 timings in few low rpm area? Not that I'm really concerned... I never go WOT at 2000-3000 rpm
for the low rpm FBCK (knock correction) knock if its low values such as -0.67 would not worry to much if its not causing your iam to drop.

you will have to check your kc learned to see if you have knock in higher rpm as it may be flck which oft does not monitor directly
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Don't be its easy. First you need to identify your cars correct rom number. Once you know which rom type simply open the folder that has the words Stg2 UEL (your rom type) and thats your file to upload to your tablet. I'm pretty sure you cannot accidentally upload the wrong rom file to your car. The program wont let you.

Their is a video on youtube if you look.

You will not find a tune that lists your specific mods. Your only concern is the UEL header. If your running normal pump gas do not upload E85

For the life of me i cannot find what rom # i have, where exactly do i find this out
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