Need help( exhaust ticket)

[MontrealFRS]

Originally Posted by Mandy

The word is "retarded" as in: you must be retarded, if you can't spell retarded correctly.

dude i misspelled a word from typing fast, are you that much of a douchebag?.

[mav1178]

......... and it went from us helping you, to no one helping you.

Seriously, you should be doing research on this via others that have experience IN MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.

Or did you not read what I wrote previously? Or maybe you can speak nicely to an officer?

From what I can read, the Greddy exhaust (if louder than stock) is not street legal in Montreal being that it is louder than what the factory system is.

-alex

[MontrealFRS]

Originally Posted by mav1178

......... and it went from us helping you, to no one helping you.

Seriously, you should be doing research on this via others that have experience IN MONTREAL QUEBEC CANADA.

Or did you not read what I wrote previously? Or maybe you can speak nicely to an officer?

From what I can read, the Greddy exhaust (if louder than stock) is not street legal in Montreal being that it is louder than what the factory system is.

-alex

is this how you speak to people in real life? i can speak nicely to the officer? like what are you talking about?
i said nothing on this post that was rude or mean to any member, exept that wasteful post above me just to shoot needles at me for no reason.
I DID READ what you said, and i found the codes and posted them just wanted some feedback.
geez, have a beer go outside, it helps:happy0180:

[mav1178]

If you did all that, then why are you asking a bunch of people on the general FRS forum for advice? It's faster if you used the Canada section, or just find out tomorrow by calling perhaps the local police station for info?

I've gotten into plenty of "trouble" before with modified parts on my car(s), and I have never found it alarming to get a ticket for a modified car. Yes, the reason(s) may be bullshit to you, but to the officer they are enforcing the law as they are trained.

Maybe it's a case of the officer reading the law incorrectly, but (from what I can see) the laws in Montreal prohibit street use of an aftermarket exhaust if it's louder than stock, and last time I checked, Greddy makes no exhaust that is same decibel (or lower) than factory.

In any case, if you want to feed the trolls next time, you can reply to their posts. If I were you I'd just ignore the post and flag it to a moderator if it really offends you. It's not hard. But by resorting to calling someone a d-bag just because that person made fun of your typo (calling an officer retarded is not exactly a good way to be level-headed about this) this isn't helping you at all.

In any case, good luck. At least here in California (completely unrelated) exhausts can be no louder than 95db measured to a SAE standard.

-alex

[MontrealFRS]

nyways, i appreciate your answers, WILL POST IN canada section next time ( honestly didnt even see it before).
I understand what your saying, the thing that was mind boggling me is just that i asked him at least 4-5 times if it was the sound and he said no!, that it had nothing to do with the sound and more the actual exhaust itself.
and yes i wont feed into trolls ;D
thx again !

[SLEEPER WRX]

OK - here's what you do

Pay the $157 and call it a day.

The ticket gets taken care of and you keep your exhaust

You have to pay if you want to play

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS

...it wasnt the loudness...

lolwut?

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS

...Greddy was not street legal...

lolwut?

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS

...my mufflers are to close to my body panel...

lolwut?


Nonsense like this makes me glad I live in good ol', backwards ass, behind the times Mississippi. I can understand emissions and noise ordinances, but your muffler is "too close" to your body panel?

[To be read in stereotypical Texas accent] "I'm sorry son, but your muffler is simply just too close to your body panel. Do you realize what sort of danger this is to your body panel? Why... it could melt a little bit right there. Then, as your government, I would be terribly distracted from my (clearly very important) duties knowing there's a beautiful car like this driving around with a tiny cosmetic blemish. Not to mention the smell of melted body panels attracts Man Bear Pig. And besides... Greddy is not street legal around these parts. We only fuck with HKS 'round hyaw. Now you get own, now, ya hear? And pay me money. It's for your own good." - The Government

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS

...the thing that was mind boggling me is just that i asked him at least 4-5 times if it was the sound and he said no!, that it had nothing to do with the sound and more the actual exhaust itself.

That's where you went wrong... if an officer suspects you in violation of a regulation, the officer won't listen to your reasoning and will cite you for it unless you have some compelling evidence on the spot to prove otherwise.

Don't argue with an officer. It's like arguing on the internet, but with legal consequences...

Originally Posted by SLEEPER WRX

You have to pay if you want to play

If you're in CA, you're wasting money by giving in.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27151.htm

95db or less. The CA state referee used to have a testing program that allowed your exhaust to be "certified" if you got an exhaust ticket. IMO this was one of the most forward-thinking programs in the country as it allowed people that got exhaust tickets to have it certified, then show the certification if pulled over.

Unfortunately this program was canned in CA after the state almost went bankrupt a few years back.

-alex

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Unfortunately this program was canned in CA after the state almost went bankrupt a few years back.

Thus proving once again that it's all about revenue.

Capitalism: it works!

[MontrealFRS]

ticket was already written, i dont care asking him the same question 15times if i have to, i just told him i didnt understand and to tell me again what is the reason. NO REASON not to do that.

but im just gonna pay it and be done with it. not gonna miss work for court or some intense research for this, just kinda mad at these ridiculous laws that make no sense.
i was reading some posts now in quebec that people with stock supras got the same ticket as me because they think its not OEM. lol like 15+ ppl and lost in court, kinda ridiculous.

[SLEEPER WRX]

Money's not being wasted - your paying to resolve an issue and get back to having fun with the car

[Anthony]

I would raise so much hell if I were one of those Supra owners. Prove to me that my Supra exhaust on my Supra is an aftermarket one, and I will pay your ticket ten fold.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Thus proving once again that it's all about revenue.

Capitalism: it works!

Not exactly...

The program was run as part of CA BAR but was taken out because a number of BAR stations was shut due to budget cuts.

But it seems like the program is back now. http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...evel_Cert.html

I should note, the original version of this program had free testing (I took advantage of it), and the program was to be funded by exhaust ticket fees that the state was collecting.

Revenue or not, at least CA is trying to be fair to all sides on this. I remember it took SEMA several years to get this law to even be considered in California.

-alex

[Anthony]

Well that's good. I'm glad to hear they're bringing it back. Life would be easier without exhaust laws to begin with though. I'm not talking about noise or emissions, just exhaust laws.