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MontrealFRS 07-31-2013 10:27 PM

Need help( exhaust ticket)
 
hey, So i just got back home, after a retarted cop pulled me over, saying my exhaust was loud. ( its been a year with it and no problem)
He told me that it wasnt the loudness but that Greddy was not street legal and somethhing like my mufflers are to close to my body panel?, and he handed me a 157$ ticket...

Btw i have a greddy evo 3 exhaust ( no silencers) and a nameless downpipe( if it matters).

Is there anything i can do? this doesnt seem right for some reason......

im in montreal quebec, canada.

thx if you can help me out.

clayrush 07-31-2013 10:33 PM

That's such crap. I don't know how laws up there. I know some city's pass little b.s. laws with things like this. Try to find out the so called violation on line. Should have some code written on the ticket. It's like cops giving tickets when the evo first came over for to big of a spoiler.

mav1178 07-31-2013 11:00 PM

I strongly suggest you 1) post in Canadian section of the forum, and 2) find out what law he cited you on.

Or... maybe use Google?

http://www.spvm.qc.ca/en/jeunesse/ado-Tuning.asp

-alex

Reading that makes me cringe. Your laws are so much worse than here in California...

wheelhaus 07-31-2013 11:10 PM

Exhaust laws are based on environmental regulations, since it can affect emissions and noise regulations in some cases. I understand why the laws exist (that no part of the exhaust may be modified), but wish it was more forgiving for systems that still use a catalytic converter. For instance, it would be awesome if you can get it tested and show it's within certain emissions limits or noise limits, you could then get a certificate for testing once each year or something.
Oh well. Too bad common sense has no place in today's world.

Pneub 07-31-2013 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 1109796)
hey, So i just got back home, after a retarted cop pulled me over, saying my exhaust was loud. ( its been a year with it and no problem)
He told me that it wasnt the loudness but that Greddy was not street legal and somethhing like my mufflers are to close to my body panel?, and he handed me a 157$ ticket...

Btw i have a greddy evo 3 exhaust ( no silencers) and a nameless downpipe( if it matters).

Is there anything i can do? this doesnt seem right for some reason......

im in montreal quebec, canada.

thx if you can help me out.

I'm not sure why the cop is retarded for doing his job. I've had the greddy evo exhaust with the stock front pipe and it was loud, and I'm guessing that the removal of the cat where you are is illegal. Just because you got away with it for a year doesn't mean you're exempt from the law.

Anyways, we all take risks knowing the possible consequences when we modify our cars (trust me I know, if you look at my build thread I'm dealing with these risks). Look up the laws and see what your options are and see if he cited you on something that is either not a law anymore or he wrote down the wrong information. I've had tickets in the past where they cited me for a violation but wrote down the wrong code for said violation and the ticket was dropped. If the law is legit, and he cited you on it, suck it up and pay the price of having a fun modified car.

Good luck.

Dispect 07-31-2013 11:16 PM

idk if QC is the same as BC but here, we can dispute most tickets. might wanna try that

FRiSson 07-31-2013 11:20 PM

Communities have a right to regulate overly loud exhausts. Are you disputing that?

MontrealFRS 07-31-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pneub (Post 1109914)
I'm not sure why the cop is retarded for doing his job. I've had the greddy evo exhaust with the stock front pipe and it was loud, and I'm guessing that the removal of the cat where you are is illegal. Just because you got away with it for a year doesn't mean you're exempt from the law.

Anyways, we all take risks knowing the possible consequences when we modify our cars (trust me I know, if you look at my build thread I'm dealing with these risks). Look up the laws and see what your options are and see if he cited you on something that is either not a law anymore or he wrote down the wrong information. I've had tickets in the past where they cited me for a violation but wrote down the wrong code for said violation and the ticket was dropped. If the law is legit, and he cited you on it, suck it up and pay the price of having a fun modified car.

Good luck.

The reason I didnt get him so to speak is because he told me it had nothing to do with the sound level or else he would of used the sound DB machine which he didnt....
So im kinda ;/ about it, he really wasnt clear and just started blabbing on how its to close to my body panels and greddy is just illegal..... it says C-24-2 on my ticket i checked it on google but no success?
and thanks for the replies guys i know its my responsibility ext and i am not a child to be a brat and just say f cops but this just seems odd to me....

Kelbyat07 07-31-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhaus (Post 1109898)
Exhaust laws are based on environmental regulations, since it can affect emissions and noise regulations in some cases. I understand why the laws exist (that no part of the exhaust may be modified), but wish it was more forgiving for systems that still use a catalytic converter. For instance, it would be awesome if you can get it tested and show it's within certain emissions limits or noise limits, you could then get a certificate for testing once each year or something.
Oh well. Too bad common sense has no place in today's world.


This and it really depends which state you live in. Most state wont allow t for environmental regulations but some allows it only if it is under certain decibels. I don't think you can really fight it. It is against most, if not all the states.

By the way, how are you liking your Greddy exhaust? Does it still sound the same after a year?

MontrealFRS 07-31-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson (Post 1109925)
Communities have a right to regulate overly loud exhausts. Are you disputing that?

did i ever say i was? Did i ever write he stopped me because it was loud? i stated he said it didnt have to do with the sound.

Pneub 07-31-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 1109939)
The reason I didnt get him so to speak is because he told me it had nothing to do with the sound level or else he would of used the sound DB machine which he didnt....
So im kinda ;/ about it, he really wasnt clear and just started blabbing on how its to close to my body panels and greddy is just illegal..... it says C-24-2 on my ticket i checked it on google but no success?
and thanks for the replies guys i know its my responsibility ext and i am not a child to be a brat and just say f cops but this just seems odd to me....

Keep searching. You'd be surprised how often cops either write bogus tickets or mess up the code and expect you to pay for it blindly. If the same laws apply there as they do here you can get off with zero fine if they've fucked that up.

MontrealFRS 07-31-2013 11:39 PM

Welll... I found this on c-24-2 codes..
258. Every motor vehicle must be equipped with an exhaust system that conforms to the standards established by regulation.

1986, c. 91, s. 258.

259. No person may sell or offer for sale, for use on a public highway, an exhaust system that does not conform to the standards prescribed by regulation.

1986, c. 91, s. 259.

260. No person may perform or cause the performance of any operation on a motor vehicle to cancel or reduce the effectiveness of the exhaust system of the vehicle.

1986, c. 91, s. 260.

Propaganda 08-01-2013 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayrush (Post 1109810)
It's like cops giving tickets when the evo first came over for to big of a spoiler.

IIRC, the hood scoop and spoiler on the Hawkeye STIs are technically illegal in VA. Lol

Mandy 08-01-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 1109796)
after a retarted cop pulled me over

The word is "retarded" as in: you must be retarded, if you can't spell retarded correctly.


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