Decent pics of Borla UEL header / collector?

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[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by BryanGT

If it holds together and makes good power does anyone really give a damn what the collector welds look like? Clearly Borla stands behind their products and the dyno numbers are there.

I think some of us are being a bit pedantic about shit that doesn't really matter.

People go through alot of effort and expense to port and polish heads and intake manifolds. All for a smooth path so the air can flow with less resistance. The headers also benefit from this as well. So while you may be pleased with the results, they could always be better.
I dont own a set either way.. Just sayin

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

People go through alot of effort and expense to port and polish heads and intake manifolds. All for a smooth path so the air can flow with less resistance. The headers also benefit from this as well. So while you may be pleased with the results, they could always be better.
I dont own a set either way.. Just sayin

i dont think it matters since i think the borla uel header makes the most power and best sound out of any uel header out there.

[NoFear99]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

People go through alot of effort and expense to port and polish heads and intake manifolds. All for a smooth path so the air can flow with less resistance. The headers also benefit from this as well. So while you may be pleased with the results, they could always be better.
I dont own a set either way.. Just sayin

Smooth path and surface for the intake is ok but for the exhaust smooth surface doesnt matter with all the exhaust dust you got in there anyhow.

It is not because your collector will look better on a picture that you will really have a better flow...

The design of the borla is real good. The finition of the product is just less good than a JDL for exemple. That's it.

For people who want an aesthetic piece of art under their car go with the JDL.

For other poeple who want good results and best bang for the bucks just go with Borla.

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

I think there are several different production runs, each with updated tooling.

The latest (this month) production run is getting delivered here tomorrow.
I think the horrible collector pic was one of the first runs which had issues as admitted by borla.

I'm excited, and will take detailed pictures

THAT does not excuse in any way a poor quality product released in the market. Have high standards or GTFO!

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by NoFear99

Smooth path and surface for the intake is ok but for the exhaust smooth surface doesnt matter with all the exhaust dust you got in there anyhow.

It is not because your collector will look better on a picture that you will really have a better flow...

The design of the borla is real good. The finition of the product is just less good than a JDL for exemple. That's it.

For people who want an aesthetic piece of art under their car go with the JDL.

For other poeple who want good results and best bang for the bucks just go with Borla.

Of course it matters.. which is the reason people buy aftermarket headers to begin with! to have mandrel bends to smooth out the flow.. not to have objects in the path with uneven bends and globs blocking the flow..
polished internals arent necessary.. people go with ceramic coatings to improve flow and retain heat . it all matters..

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

THAT does not excuse in any way a poor quality product released in the market. Have high standards or GTFO!

I had high standards and replaced the plastic bypass valve in my vortech kit, someone said "fuck that" because it was too "expensive".

I like the borla header because its cheap and the best bang for your buck, and I'm told to GTFO.

Its these sort of things that make you not want to waste time by contributing with input/pictures/reviews.

If you don't like the borla header, then go buy a different one or just leave the thread. The topic was for pictures of the header/collector, not bash everyone who bought a borla header

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

I had high standards and replaced the plastic bypass valve in my vortech kit, someone said "fuck that" because it was too "expensive".

I like the borla header because its cheap and the best bang for your buck, and I'm told to GTFO.

Its these sort of things that make you not want to waste time by contributing with input/pictures/reviews.

If you don't like the borla header, then go buy a different one or just leave the thread. The topic was for pictures of the header/collector, not bash everyone who bought a borla header

Mate, stop being all precious and get it the wrong way. What i am saying is:
1. Yes they might be the best bang for your buck but since when that justifies poor welding, etc?
2. They are releasing a product with faults (wrapped flanges, etc), expect people to pay for them and then they want the consumer to accept that because of the "not the right tools" to do the job.
3. "We will do a better job next time for the next batch because we have better tools" is just a poor excuse for mediocre work.

From a customer perspective, if your product does not meet my (what i consider and i am sure I am not the only one) basic expectations for a good header, then DO NOT RELEASE IT. People pay money for these things and expect a certain attention to details, but sorry mate...when you see welding that look like it has been performed by Michael J Fox while the competition releases parts that are nothing short of a piece of art and almost the same price...sorry but I wont accept that.

But hey, if you have low standards, want to get something that is not done properly, be my guest! You're not spending my money so I do not care.

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

I had high standards and replaced the plastic bypass valve in my vortech kit, someone said "fuck that" because it was too "expensive".

I like the borla header because its cheap and the best bang for your buck, and I'm told to GTFO.

Its these sort of things that make you not want to waste time by contributing with input/pictures/reviews.

If you don't like the borla header, then go buy a different one or just leave the thread. The topic was for pictures of the header/collector, not bash everyone who bought a borla header

Also, the OP asked for "decent pics of Borla UEL header/collector", right? Well, "decent" and Borla in the same sentence from what I have seen here so far, DO NOT EXISTS or they are very hard to find! Do not get all offended when people can't really come up with anything decent, buddy!

Some people just don't want to manufacture pictures to support your buyers remorse or "I hate to be wrong because i paid for it so might as well like it and support it" attitude. Asking me or any others to turn a blind eye to poor quality stuff, promotes ignorance, misconception and poor quality stuff in the market.

Cheers and take care.:happy0180:

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

Also, the OP asked for "decent pics of Borla UEL header/collector", right? Well, "decent" and Borla in the same sentence from what I have seen here so far, DO NOT EXISTS or they are very hard to find! Do not get all offended when people can't really come up with anything decent, buddy!

Some people just don't want to manufacture pictures to support your buyers remorse or "I hate to be wrong because i paid for it so might as well like it and support it" attitude. Asking me or any others to turn a blind eye to poor quality stuff, promotes ignorance, misconception and poor quality stuff in the market.

Cheers and take care.:happy0180:

Decent pictures is a clear picture of a borla collector, it has nothing to do with quality.
Also Michael J Fox was great in Back to the Future

Back on topic, here are pictures from the 2nd header (old tooling) collector and tubes after being run for a month in rain/dry, no rust anywhere
The collector is not as good as the most recent batch

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

Decent pictures is a clear picture of a borla collector, it has nothing to do with quality.
Also Michael J Fox was great in Back to the Future

Back on topic, here are pictures from the 2nd header (old tooling) collector and tubes after being run for a month in rain/dry, no rust anywhere
The collector is not as good as the most recent batch

Not even a fan of JDL but have a look at this but this alone makes me reconsider. Look at BORLA fnish and look at JDL. Which one has a better finish? Second, third batch who gives a rats a$$. MJ Fox has shaky hands due to his Parkinson illness hence the joke of the shaky/all over the place welds of the Borla collector.

[HRTROB]

Very happy with my Borla UEL header. Proven gains even with the crappy collector here's my dyno sheet. Stock tune on both pulls

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Hawk77FT

MJ Fox has shaky hands due to his Parkinson illness hence the joke of the shaky/all over the place welds of the Borla collector.

I understood the joke, thankfully I don't know anyone personally who has it.

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by HRTROB

Very happy with my Borla UEL header. Proven gains even with the crappy collector here's my dyno sheet

With or without a tune on this dyno