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Old 10-27-2012, 04:10 PM   #15
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Funny, a guy from northern Cali recommending Canadian Tire.
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Old 10-27-2012, 05:47 PM   #16
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People have been known to relocate in the course of a lifetime you know :P I just said Canadian Tire because they carry pretty much everything.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:10 PM   #17
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The thought I had was maybe investing in the rain guards that go along the outside of the window. I'm thinking it might help keep the snow off the edge of the window's at the top.

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The issue, atleast in my case, hasn't been the door rubber seals at the top of the glass. Its the window track getting frozen against the top of the door when the window is all the way up. If you stick a thin card down you can feel that the window clamps are right at the top of the door when closed. Most other cars I've owned there is actually 3inches or so of glass inside the door at all times,this car seems to maybe have an inch tops.

Will probably try a couple drops of lock deicer/methanol down the window where the clamps are before trying to open the door.
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The issue, atleast in my case, hasn't been the door rubber seals at the top of the glass. Its the window track getting frozen against the top of the door when the window is all the way up. If you stick a thin card down you can feel that the window clamps are right at the top of the door when closed. Most other cars I've owned there is actually 3inches or so of glass inside the door at all times,this car seems to maybe have an inch tops.

Will probably try a couple drops of lock deicer/methanol down the window where the clamps are before trying to open the door.
So when the windows get frozen to the rubber seals, how did you get your door to open? Did you just scrape the ice off and then tug hard on the door? Or is that bad for the windows?
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my windows havent frozen to my rubber seals once.
its been -20 here with freeze/thaw as well, the door opens fine, just the window doesnt drop down its normal 1/2 inch into the door. There really arent any clearance issues with that not happening, I just dont close my door hard not close it by pushing on the glass.
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This morning it was only -1 and dry, I had difficulty opening the driver's door, and I experienced the same issue with the windows. I got back to my car after work (0 degrees) and the same thing: two window buttons flashing on the driver's side, the windows would not auto-up when the doors closed, and you can't make the passenger window go up or down from the drivers side (you have to use the passenger side switch). I can't wait to see what real winter weather will do.

I picked up some Kleen-Flo Rubber Care at Crappy Tire. There wasn't much to choose from in this category, but it is silicone (and petroleum) free, so hopefully it will do no harm.

I guess I'll find out in the morning if it works or not. My last car had frameless windows as well (Genesis coupe), but I only had issues with the windows once, and that was forgiveable as it was during an ice storm.
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Same as RoryTate here: no ice at all at the bottom of the window nor around the rubber seals and the window jammed while auto-lowering. Later up, when the driver side window eventually agreed to go fully down (and then fully up), it looked like the problem was around the rolls guiding the window inside the door. I could physically feel that there was some ice deposit on them (they spinned irregularly) and there were two large watery prints on the glass, with bits of ice in them. It looks like the occurrence of the problem will be quite unpredictable and difficult to relate to weather.
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Is there any pro or con to having tinted windows? The tint film might prevent a bit of freezing/stiction?
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Same as RoryTate here: no ice at all at the bottom of the window nor around the rubber seals and the window jammed while auto-lowering. Later up, when the driver side window eventually agreed to go fully down (and then fully up), it looked like the problem was around the rolls guiding the window inside the door. I could physically feel that there was some ice deposit on them (they spinned irregularly) and there were two large watery prints on the glass, with bits of ice in them. It looks like the occurrence of the problem will be quite unpredictable and difficult to relate to weather.
I recall seeing the moisture on the glass as well. I'm hoping that the trigger was moisture freezing on the weather seal around the top of the window, but only time will tell.

FWIW, I didn't have the issue today after applying the product to the weather seal last night, but it didn't snow or rain in the meantime either.
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The most annoying thing for me was that water and ice came from the inside of the door and not from any part of the outside window frame. My feeling is that in addition to an eventual accumulation of ice between the window and the seals, there is a good chance that water freezes in the area of the mechanism itself, with no obvious possibility to get access to it.
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Ughhh... Hope mine doesn't do this in the cold now that winter weather has arrived.
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is there any solution to switch OFF this "auto -up-down for an inch " window feature?

when the doors are covered with ice, sure they need time to melt it, while you are heating the cabin... so why harsh them with forcing the window to "comfortly"scroll up&down automatically when you open and close the door to start the car?

to keep the windows away from sticking to the cabin rubbers I always used silicone spray and it solved any frameless doors problems in the winter

but in BRZ the windows live their own lifes, scrolling when you havent asked them to

this feature should be ON\OFF-able imho
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I have had two new occurrences of windows not going down during the last week and fortunately the glass does not scrape the rubber of the frame of the door. I think that next time I will leave them stuck in that position for the whole winter and not bother with that issue any more.

I would like to point out that every time the window refused to move, it was because of a problem inside the door (probably around the components of the mechanism), never because of glass sticking to rubber. I spent the last five winters with a NC MX-5 and never did the window stick to rubber so I do not expect anything different with the FR-S.
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