Syms Racing Intake

[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by ex-gti

Thought I would share =)

DAMN! That pic highlights that we have quite a good size windshield washer fluid reservoir, don't we??

Oh yah, nice intake...

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

The Sard intake pipe would go very nice with this.

I think i read in another thread that he has one...

Originally Posted by brz_star21

DAMN! That pic highlights that we have quite a good size windshield washer fluid reservoir, don't we??

Oh yah, nice intake...

Its bloody huge! I had to remove it to install my duct and couldn't believe how big they made it...

[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

The Sard intake pipe would go very nice with this.

Might as well throw in a trick oil cooler too...

[ex-gti]

yeah i have the sard with the syms installed as well.

had to make a couple of adjustments to marry both intakes together.

the induction sound is perfect =)

Also deleted the stock sound generator and plugged the the sound tube with tape

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

I think i read in another thread that he has one...


Its bloody huge! I had to remove it to install my duct and couldn't believe how big they made it...

NM I see his last post.

Too bad the Sard intake pipe is so expensive. The carbon fiber intake pipe and complete Syms Intake Duct would cost close to 2000 dollars with shipping and taxes. You could buy a Gruppe M intake for that much which IMO is nicest intake for this car if you want to stay NA.

The Gruppe M is a beauty its just a shame its so expensive. Gruppe M makes some of the best intakes for many platforms.

Originally Posted by ex-gti

yeah i have the sard with the syms installed as well.

had to make a couple of adjustments to marry both intakes together.

the induction sound is perfect =)

Also deleted the stock sound generator and plugged the the sound tube with tape

Is the sound really distinguishable? Would a sound clip be able to hear the difference? What does the Carbon fiber box do thats attatched to the sound generator? Im just wondering because that piece costs an extra 400 dollars... What exactly is its purpose? Love your set up though either way its still sexy. Going this route would be more wise if you ever decide to go turbo or s/c route as you could possibly use it for a AVO or Innovate kit. I wonder though if there would be enough room for the Intercooler since the duct is so big compared to the HKS.

Wrap the other half of the intake box in carbon fiber for aesthetics. xD

[ex-gti]

mmm i'll try and get a sound clip..

a bit concerned the supersprint full exhaust may drown the noise haha

Its another resonator box. Replaces the stock one.

So u get two resonators in total.. the other one is the one that hangs below

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by ex-gti

mmm i'll try and get a sound clip..

a bit concerned the supersprint full exhaust may drown the noise haha

Its another resonator box. Replaces the stock one.

So u get two resonators in total.. the other one is the one that hangs below

400 dollars for just a resonator seems a bit much n over doing it. Didnt know there was another one also though, but have u tried it with and without the resonators installed for difference in sound?

[ex-gti]

I have. You are right.

The aesthetic component will outweigh functionality in this case. I just like the ways the additional resonator box looks. The intake itself is markedly more than the other intakes on the market (besides gruppeM). I went all out to make my car look that bit more special =)

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by ex-gti

I have. You are right.

The aesthetic component will outweigh functionality in this case. I just like the ways the additional resonator box looks. The intake itself is markedly more than the other intakes on the market (besides gruppeM). I went all out to make my car look that bit more special =)

You should do a dyno session with the stock air box then use your last 2 runs with the sard intake pip/syms intake. Spending 1900-2000 on an intake set up, you should spend 50 bucks n dyno it with 3 runs to see what the difference. If I spent that much on just an intake set up I definitely would.

If it was just a 300 dollar intake I wouldnt bother but since you spend so much especially since you got the Sard CF intake pipe you should do it and report the results. Do 1 stock, 2 with the upgrades or 1 with oem drop in and 1 with after market drop in assuming you got an after market drop in filter with all this. I like this type of intake for the twins because it acts like a CAI but you dont need to take off the bumper to clean the filter like other after market intake pipes.

If you look at the drop in filter dyno thread where they tested 3 after market drop ins you would see that there was gains across the whole dyno graph of 5 whp. So with the syms intake the results would be interesting since Syms also claims you get 10 wtq with this intake duct when other drop in filters dont even get more than 1 wtq, this is assuming they used their drop in filter with the intake duct on there dyno. Sard is known for there R&D and I wouldnt be surprised if it performed slightly better than other intake tubes like AVO that got 2 whp with just the silicone tube. Since CF is known for attracting the least amount of heat than other types of materials.

This set up will probably do so well when other NA mods are released. This and Gruppe M's intakes are the 2 best performing intakes for this car so just imagine this set up with a proper tune and cams.

[Kostamojen]

Wish they would make it out of ABS plastic and a ton cheaper XD

[monkeychopkick]

Will the Gruppe M intake work with the Brz, being that the grills on the two vehicles are different? Would suck to get the intake then find out the opening sit behind that black bumper thingy.

[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by monkeychopkick

Will the Gruppe M intake work with the Brz, being that the grills on the two vehicles are different? Would suck to get the intake then find out the opening sit behind that black bumper thingy.

I'm sure it won't be much different from 86 owners swapping BRZ bumpers or vice versa as far as fitment goes. The application pics show the 5 mph styrofoam isn't there so it rests in front of the steel crash bar. Revolution (the shop/brand that had Gruppe-M create the intake for them) also lists it for 86/BRZ.

As far as how it looks with the BRZ bumper, see the pic I posted above of Revolution's 86 oil cooler that also happens to show the intake ducts. That might give you a general idea of how low the duct openings hang. Looks as if the duct might slightly get blocked by the BRZ's mustache but it still might get good flow.

[FR-Sizzle]

Originally Posted by brz_star21

I'm sure it won't be much different from 86 owners swapping BRZ bumpers or vice versa as far as fitment goes. The application pics show the 5 mph styrofoam isn't there so it rests in front of the steel crash bar. Revolution (the shop/brand that had Gruppe-M create the intake for them) also lists it for 86/BRZ.

As far as how it looks with the BRZ bumper, see the pic I posted above of Revolution's 86 oil cooler that also happens to show the intake ducts. That might give you a general idea of how low the duct openings hang. Looks as if the duct might slightly get blocked by the BRZ's mustache but it still might get good flow.

I doubt the mustache would affect the air getting sucked in at all. All the air that enters will eventually reach the ducts well whether it is a BRZ or FR-S. People like Sierra who think a duct will effect the air enterng a radiator are really dellusional and seem like they are just trying to find a reason why it isnt good.

In reality a duct or mustache covering something will not make any difference to performance as long as the opening is there. Air will reach all parts whether or not something is in front when you are driving. Otherwise if you used that type of logic with all parts then why on earth would an intercooler be put infront of the radiator . GruppeM is a really big company and I would doubt that they didnt keep stuff like that in mind when doing the R&D for this car and make sure it works for both models. Rarely do you see parts work for one model and not the other. And when it is that case its ussually because of things like LHD/RHD. Like Oil Catch cans for example.

[brz_star21]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

I doubt the mustache would affect the air getting sucked in at all. All the air that enters will eventually reach the ducts well whether it is a BRZ or FR-S. People like Sierra who think a duct will effect the air enterng a radiator are really dellusional and seem like they are just trying to find a reason why it isnt good.

In reality a duct or mustache covering something will not make any difference to performance as long as the opening is there. Air will reach all parts whether or not something is in front when you are driving. Otherwise if you used that type of logic with all parts then why on earth would an intercooler be put infront of the radiator . GruppeM is a really big company and I would doubt that they didnt keep stuff like that in mind when doing the R&D for this car and make sure it works for both models. Rarely do you see parts work for one model and not the other. And when it is that case its ussually because of things like LHD/RHD. Like Oil Catch cans for example.

I don't think it'd matter on flow either but I'm assuming monkeychopkick was concerned more that the FR-S grille might receive more flow than say the BRZ (however miniscule that amount might be) not really that it wouldn't work at all. Also, maybe they were assuming that the more the duct was directly exposed to free flowing air the better, maybe?

Upon further picture reference inspection, the FR-S grille doesn't really have much of a usable opening than it appears. The grille appears larger but if you look closely has a solid backed portion right around the same area that the BRZ's mustache would be (covering the unsightly bumper crash beam I suspect).