Syms Racing Intake

[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by soros151

Any update about the carbon box adapter?

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its already released.

[soros151]

Originally Posted by TwinRz

its already released.

Is it just for looks or does it have actual performance gains? Thanks for the update.

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[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by soros151

Is it just for looks or does it have actual performance gains? Thanks for the update.

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No idea. No one has posted anything on it besides it being released. I believe someone was going to buy it but they havent even posted anything on it.

I would think this would have some gains otherwise it probably wouldnt of been released.. This versus the snorkel definately gets more air moving. You could say this is a poor mans Gruppe M. Pair this with a drop in filter/AVO or Zeta silcone tube and you would see even more gains.

One of the drop in filters recently released claims to get 10 WHP and 7 Tq in their dynos. Add the Zeta/AVO tubes and add another 1-3 WHP. Pair those with this intake and you would have a beast of an intake.

With those 2 said added I would love to see the results that these 3 combined would get. Since the drop in filter is very intriguing but would like to see more results on it since companies tend to inflate numbers.

[TwinRz]

+8 WHP & +10 WTQ

Here is a dyno on the intake from the site itself. Shows gains across most the dyno, with about +8 WHP / +10 WTQ @ 6500 RPMs. I have no problem with purchasing this intake after I get my Perrin Headerback. It is beautiful and uses the stock tubing that allows you to use drop in filters from Perrin or WORKS. The GruppeM is nice but it is a little too much just for an intake. I dont mind paying more for an intake like this since you can even put a drop in filter and different tubing for even better performance. If someone could clarify how it would work what I ask below.

For 1300, probably 1600 after taxes / delivery according to another member, thats pretty steep. But its design is amazing. A Gruppe M is listed as 2084, then you have delivery / taxes also on top of that. I would be interested in how the Gruppe M performs also but I doubt it would be any better then the syms or other intakes currently out.

This intake has a ton of potential though. Just imagine how it would perform with any after market drop in filter. WORKS claims 10 whp, even a Perrin, HKS, or K&N it would also boost its WHP. Add a Zeta Silicone Tubing or even the HKS suction kit if you have money then you have one hell of an intake.

Does anyone know how the gains would work on this intake if you put any of the above in also? I would assume they compliment each other really well. If the WORKS drop in gets 10 WHP with the stock air box imagine how much better it would perform with this intake and the silicone tubing from Zeta or AVO. Is it safe to assume that with any drop in filter added with this intake that it would get what the gains were on top of this intake? For example the WORKS drop in + Syms would it be 18 WHP possibly even more since its getting even more air from the scoop?

[soros151]

Originally Posted by TwinRz

+8 WHP & +10 WTQ

Here is a dyno on the intake from the site itself. Shows gains across most the dyno, with about +8 WHP / +10 WTQ @ 6500 RPMs. I have no problem with purchasing this intake after I get my Perrin Headerback. It is beautiful and uses the stock tubing that allows you to use drop in filters from Perrin or WORKS. The GruppeM is nice but it is a little too much just for an intake. I dont mind paying more for an intake like this since you can even put a drop in filter and different tubing for even better performance. If someone could clarify how it would work what I ask below.

For 1300, probably 1600 after taxes / delivery according to another member, thats pretty steep. But its design is amazing. A Gruppe M is listed as 2084, then you have delivery / taxes also on top of that. I would be interested in how the Gruppe M performs also but I doubt it would be any better then the syms or other intakes currently out.

This intake has a ton of potential though. Just imagine how it would perform with any after market drop in filter. WORKS claims 10 whp, even a Perrin, HKS, or K&N it would also boost its WHP. Add a Zeta Silicone Tubing or even the HKS suction kit if you have money then you have one hell of an intake.

Does anyone know how the gains would work on this intake if you put any of the above in also? I would assume they compliment each other really well. If the WORKS drop in gets 10 WHP with the stock air box imagine how much better it would perform with this intake and the silicone tubing from Zeta or AVO. Is it safe to assume that with any drop in filter added with this intake that it would get what the gains were on top of this intake? For example the WORKS drop in + Syms would it be 18 WHP possibly even more since its getting even more air from the scoop?

I forgot to say, that I saw this numbers on their website. Thank you for posting them. If we use the hp per $ formula. I think there is WAAAAAY better options for us out there, even in combination of types of filters and intakes. I'm trying to study that soon.

[JoeBoxer]

You can't just add 8hp + 10hp and come up with an 18hp gain, those numbers could be at different rpm's among other things but generally speaking you can't just add each parts "claimed" gains and expect it to show up on the dyno.

[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

You can't just add 8hp + 10hp and come up with an 18hp gain, those numbers could be at different rpm's among other things but generally speaking you can't just add each parts "claimed" gains and expect it to show up on the dyno.

What i was trying to understand was what could we expect with those 2 items together if 1 is 10 and the other is 18. An estimate.

[tomato86]

Oh damn! Gruppe M is amazing, I loved their Evo 10 intake. This one looks badass... Copped.

[ChaChas345]

Has anyone gotten the Syms or Gruppe M intakes yet? I would love to own either. I might not go FI for a long time because of warranty so I might get either of them.

The Syms looks really nice and shows very good gains compared to the other intakes on the market right now. I like it because it keeps the stock air box and you can use your own drop in filter and change your oem tubing to a silicone tubing. Like a poster said above all 3 can be done to compliment each other.

Looks like it would be a very good set up for even more gains. The SYMS site even says that more power can be added if you change other things like the air filter. This looks like it could probably get around 10-13 WHP possibly even more if WORKS drop in is what they claim to be. I would be happy with just 10-15 with all 3 items. So far no intake looks like its worth buying domestically. Maybe the Perrin when its out and just like the Perrin this probably would even do better with a tune.

The Max racing duct also looks nice too. This would be a similar set up as the Max racing IMO people in that thread who say it wouldnt do much are probably people who have never owned an S2K or any other car that used similar systems. Especially the S2K which had some of the best intakes on that car being similar set ups like this.

I would love to see an independent party dyno if anyone has it. If some has gotten and can please give a review of it I would much appreciate it. I am very curious on how the extra 300 dollar sound generator part sounds like or does also. I am debating if I should order that part or save 300 for the shipping instead.

Looks like the Gruppe M collaboration just gets a little more then the SYM Racing Intake, not surprising since it catches more air. But costing about a grand more also to purchase. If I had to choose I would go with the SYMS that is about the most I would ever spend on a part like that especially since if you drop 2 g's on a Gruppe M you might as well go Forced Induction. As much as I like it I dont think I would ever get my self to spend 2 grand on an intake like that even though it looks very nice.

EDIT:
I emailed the site that the posted above provided and asked what kind of gains they saw from it here is what they replied with.

Hi,

Sorry, we can not give you the data sheet light now, you can get +10-13hp(8-10hp on DYNAPACK).



and I reccomend these parts.

http://revo-tune.jp/catalogue/detail.php?id=294
http://revo-tune.jp/catalogue/detail.php?id=277
http://revo-tune.jp/catalogue/detail.php?id=278

you can get + 30-35hp on DYNAPACK.

and I can send to the USA.

BR

I would much rather wait for Perrin to come out with a Header. I cant tell by the translation if they say that they include a CAT in the headers. Can anyone clarify?

[Turdinator]

99% sure the header is catless. Would love to see a dyno graph of it. But that is for another thread.

[ChaChas345]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

99% sure the header is catless. Would love to see a dyno graph of it. But that is for another thread.

Thats what I thought also. I love the Gruppe M but at that cost its already half the price of the Vortech kit.

Once I order my Perrin cat back I will be deciding either from the Max Racing intake duct or this Syms Racing Intake. I wont be getting the front/overpipe for the Perrin Catback until some headers come out to decide whether to go catted or catless for the Perrin System. I am just hoping the un resonated version wont be too loud with headers.

[Ro_Ja]

A similar intake design from Prova has been released.

http://jprova.co.jp/products/intake/...000001o5j.html

Much more affordable at $400.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by Ro_Ja

A similar intake design from Prova has been released.

http://jprova.co.jp/products/intake/...000001o5j.html

Much more affordable at $400.

Looks like from the pictures, this could work with other intake systems. Hmm I wonder if it will work with my Airaid.

[Tansey86]

I'm sure the money would be worth it if this was on an AVO turbo kit with a high flow filter.