Trading in my automatic FRS for 2015 sti - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Kevinjinha · 03-18-2015, 09:14 PM

I really made a bad choice by picking the automatic frs. I understand that it's the new tech but it's pretty boring to drive. The power of the car isn't that great and I've been debating for so long. I heard they were gonna come out with the Subaru BRZ sti, but that's only a rumor and I've settled down to getting a 2015 sti even if you guys say it looks like a Camry LOL. Anyway, any ideas if this is a good idea? I'm not amazing at stick either but I'll learn. Tbh everywhere I drive in my area I'll always spot an frs and it just makes me feel so ordinary, another reason why I want to switch it.

Tcoat · 03-18-2015, 09:19 PM

Hell of a first post and I think you know what the majority of answers will be since this is a 86 forum.
If you want an STi than it is a great idea!
If not the idea sucks.
I am sure that there are worse cars you could go for.
Just remember the "grass is always greener" syndrome can get costly.

DashRipRock · 03-18-2015, 09:25 PM

Its just a car sell it and move on. The STI is great car. I drove a few before I bought the FRS. Way more powerful handles great. You should be happy with it.

The Auto is for old guys like me who's knees can't take sitting in traffic holding down the clutch.
The Auto on the STI is a CVT. If you think you hated the Auto transmission in the FSR....

richardM · 03-18-2015, 09:36 PM

The car is not boring to drive, you drive in a boring place.
The car doesn't need more power, you want more power.
The FRS is $10,000 less than the STI... your FRS is worth about $16,000 less than that STI. Since it's automatic, you were never going to love it anyways. If you loved it, you would take that $16,000 beating and put a whup-ass turbo kit on the engine.

If you really want to be cool, take your money and get a 2003 Z06 Corvette. You keep $10,000 for new tires, brake pads, maybe new bushings. You have a rocket ship.

Just on going to manual transmission alone, you are gonna have fun.

But then.. don't let the door hit ya, you know?

Burrcold · 03-18-2015, 11:19 PM

Trollolololol...go away!

ckkone · 03-19-2015, 07:41 AM

Its a good idea, but your boyfriend said you were amazing with his stick....

FirestormFRS · 03-19-2015, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckkone

Its a good idea, but your boyfriend said you were amazing with his stick....

The maturity level seems to be going down a bit around here.

Guru Woodman · 03-19-2015, 08:33 AM

It's more fun to drive a slow car fast the having to drive a fast car slow.

A manual will make a big difference too. I will be more involved and active while trying to use the full potential of the vehicle.
And unless you track a car, a very powerful sports car does not make much sense in daily traffic.

Also, it is not what you drive, but where you drive it.

If you carve up some mountain roads you will have a blast with anything, driving around in a city, anything will be boring.
I'll give you an example. I have owned a Porsche 911 Carrera 4 and a Miata. I enjoyed the Miata more even though it had half the power.

SubaruLifer · 03-19-2015, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DashRipRock

Its just a car sell it and move on. The STI is great car. I drove a few before I bought the FRS. Way more powerful handles great. You should be happy with it.

The Auto is for old guys like me who's knees can't take sitting in traffic holding down the clutch.
The Auto on the STI is a CVT. If you think you hated the Auto transmission in the FSR....

The STI is manual only

DashRipRock · 03-19-2015, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruLifer

The STI is manual only

Oops you are right I was testing a WRX.

abraxis · 03-19-2015, 10:09 AM

Sounds like you don't know what you're doing with the car. Maybe get a V8 and go play with straight lines and stop lights.

adamg · 03-19-2015, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardM

If you really want to be cool, take your money and get a 2003 Z06 Corvette. You keep $10,000 for new tires, brake pads, maybe new bushings. You have a rocket ship.

What kind of tires, brake pads and bushings are you buying that cost $10k

BBYZILA · 03-19-2015, 10:26 AM

calm down people... no need to get upset.

DarkSunrise · 03-19-2015, 10:37 AM

I used to own an STI hatch and think the FR-S is the more fun/rewarding car to drive. The FR-S chassis is much lighter so it responds quicker to input, and offers better feedback through the controls. The driving position is a night/day difference. But the thing I really like about the FR-S is it feels more basic/honest to drive. Just a well-balanced RWD setup with a torsen LSD out back. The STI (at least my GR hatch) was much more biased towards understeer.

That's not to discourage you from switching - you just need to evaluate what you value. If a big part of what's fun for you is flooring it in a straight line and getting that shove from the turbo, you'll enjoy the STI. Also if you want a jack-of-all-trades AWD sedan that you can drive through snow and have some friends join you on a ski trip.

But if you love winding out an NA engine to redline and carving backroads up (or going to the track), I think you may miss the FR-S. They're both good cars, just cater to different audiences.

03-18-2015, 09:14 PM	#1
Kevinjinha Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Trading in my automatic FRS for 2015 sti I really made a bad choice by picking the automatic frs. I understand that it's the new tech but it's pretty boring to drive. The power of the car isn't that great and I've been debating for so long. I heard they were gonna come out with the Subaru BRZ sti, but that's only a rumor and I've settled down to getting a 2015 sti even if you guys say it looks like a Camry LOL. Anyway, any ideas if this is a good idea? I'm not amazing at stick either but I'll learn. Tbh everywhere I drive in my area I'll always spot an frs and it just makes me feel so ordinary, another reason why I want to switch it.

03-18-2015, 09:19 PM	#2
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,294 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Hell of a first post and I think you know what the majority of answers will be since this is a 86 forum. If you want an STi than it is a great idea! If not the idea sucks. I am sure that there are worse cars you could go for. Just remember the "grass is always greener" syndrome can get costly. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

03-18-2015, 11:19 PM	#5
Burrcold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 763 Thanked 1,586 Times in 776 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Trollolololol...go away! __________________

03-19-2015, 10:37 AM	#14
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,797 Thanks: 2,186 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I used to own an STI hatch and think the FR-S is the more fun/rewarding car to drive. The FR-S chassis is much lighter so it responds quicker to input, and offers better feedback through the controls. The driving position is a night/day difference. But the thing I really like about the FR-S is it feels more basic/honest to drive. Just a well-balanced RWD setup with a torsen LSD out back. The STI (at least my GR hatch) was much more biased towards understeer. That's not to discourage you from switching - you just need to evaluate what you value. If a big part of what's fun for you is flooring it in a straight line and getting that shove from the turbo, you'll enjoy the STI. Also if you want a jack-of-all-trades AWD sedan that you can drive through snow and have some friends join you on a ski trip. But if you love winding out an NA engine to redline and carving backroads up (or going to the track), I think you may miss the FR-S. They're both good cars, just cater to different audiences. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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03-18-2015, 09:25 PM	#3
DashRipRock Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S-6AT Location: West GTA Posts: 30 Thanks: 9 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Its just a car sell it and move on. The STI is great car. I drove a few before I bought the FRS. Way more powerful handles great. You should be happy with it. The Auto is for old guys like me who's knees can't take sitting in traffic holding down the clutch. The Auto on the STI is a CVT. If you think you hated the Auto transmission in the FSR....

03-18-2015, 09:36 PM	#4
richardM Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: scion frs, 2012 Mustang Location: wisconsin Posts: 47 Thanks: 59 Thanked 41 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The car is not boring to drive, you drive in a boring place. The car doesn't need more power, you want more power. The FRS is $10,000 less than the STI... your FRS is worth about $16,000 less than that STI. Since it's automatic, you were never going to love it anyways. If you loved it, you would take that $16,000 beating and put a whup-ass turbo kit on the engine. If you really want to be cool, take your money and get a 2003 Z06 Corvette. You keep $10,000 for new tires, brake pads, maybe new bushings. You have a rocket ship. Just on going to manual transmission alone, you are gonna have fun. But then.. don't let the door hit ya, you know?

03-19-2015, 08:33 AM	#8
Guru Woodman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Sport Tech CWP Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 515 Thanks: 265 Thanked 636 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's more fun to drive a slow car fast the having to drive a fast car slow. A manual will make a big difference too. I will be more involved and active while trying to use the full potential of the vehicle. And unless you track a car, a very powerful sports car does not make much sense in daily traffic. Also, it is not what you drive, but where you drive it. If you carve up some mountain roads you will have a blast with anything, driving around in a city, anything will be boring. I'll give you an example. I have owned a Porsche 911 Carrera 4 and a Miata. I enjoyed the Miata more even though it had half the power.

03-19-2015, 10:09 AM	#11
abraxis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: many Location: here Posts: 487 Thanks: 190 Thanked 279 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like you don't know what you're doing with the car. Maybe get a V8 and go play with straight lines and stop lights.

03-19-2015, 10:26 AM	#13
BBYZILA Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: Michigan Posts: 103 Thanks: 50 Thanked 70 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	calm down people... no need to get upset.

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