Dealer Fees - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

WRXGuy1 · 05-15-2012, 02:12 PM

I just put a deposit down on a GBS premium MT and the dealer sent me some information on the car. He has down that the car and some accessories is $25,626 + $770 transportation + $348 "dealer fee" + TTL. Does this sound right for people ordering this car, or should there not even be a dealer fee associated with this?

GMU-BRZ · 05-15-2012, 02:16 PM

The answer awaits you, if you seek it out.

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KevinDuMa · 05-15-2012, 02:16 PM

I know there are several people on here that got charged some fees. When you put your deposit down did you get a final price? My price was $25,495+ttl which was about $1700 and the destination charge of $770.

Grimlock · 05-15-2012, 02:17 PM

Dealer fees usually vary by state and by dealership. Some dealers charge $99, some $199, and I've even see $499. It is supposed to be for the paperwork of processing your sale and dealing with the state for tax and tags, but in reality it's mostly profit for the dealership.

In some (most?) states, it's not required by law (and they tell you that), but if they charge it to one customer, they have to charge it to all customers. The usual way to get around that fee is to ask the dealer to discount the price of the car by the amount of that fee. I have a hard time believing that would work for early BRZs.

thill · 05-15-2012, 03:10 PM

In my experience you can usually negotiate the document/processing fees. But I don't know when you have a limited car that has a high demand. But it is worth a shot. $348 seems excessive. Most dealers in Minnesota typically charge a $75 doc fee from what I have seen, but did not check on the Subaru BRZ...

Laika · 05-15-2012, 03:13 PM

Yeah that's somewhat up there for a doc fee

Congrats on going with GBS though! The rare unicorn of the BRZ colors

Dave-ROR · 05-15-2012, 03:14 PM

Most dealers in Florida are $299-$750 with ~450-500 being most common.

powertrip · 05-15-2012, 03:18 PM

$348 isnt so bad. could be worse. plus they arent trying to hose you with any add-ons so you might just have to bite the bullet on it.

thill · 05-15-2012, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Most dealers in Florida are $299-$750 with ~450-500 being most common.

Wow.. That is really high.. I had a Mazda dealer in Virginia try to get me to pay $200 once for a doc fee. I told him no way and he told me tough luck. Everyone has to pay it and he cannot remove it. So I said thanks, shook his hand, and started to leave. I did not even make it to my car in the parking lot before he told me "he would get special approval just this one time".

BRZ is different though... Dealers have you and they know it... I still think you should be able to negotiate that lower or get some free oil changes out of the deal.

DP82 · 05-15-2012, 08:27 PM

The bill of sale or pre-order should have everything broken out:

MSRP
TT&L
Delivery Fee
Doc Fee (varies by state... check out this link for more details: http://blog.truecar.com/2011/07/26/w...s-the-doc-fee/)

Hope that helps! Anything beyond what is stated above I would question and research.

kensic · 05-15-2012, 08:35 PM

ok so they are charging you "dealer fees"

ask them to DEFINE that fee. what consists in it. and such. I'm sure your concern will vanish after they go into details about that fees.

cuz every other fees is self-explanatory.

BMWDavid · 05-15-2012, 10:27 PM

Just ask them if it can be reduced. My dealer had a $249.00 doc fee. Got it down to $100.00 just by asking. Getting car @ MSRP.

Lighting Red · 05-15-2012, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWDavid

Just ask them if it can be reduced. My dealer had a $249.00 doc fee. Got it down to $100.00 just by asking. Getting car @ MSRP.

Hey, the answer's always, "No," unless you ask! :happy0180:

ashtray · 06-03-2012, 02:26 AM

I was nervous bc I didn't negotiate the doc fee when ordering. Turns out they only charged $55!

05-15-2012, 02:12 PM	#1
WRXGuy1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Premium 6MT Location: Goffstown, NH Posts: 662 Thanks: 606 Thanked 155 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dealer Fees I just put a deposit down on a GBS premium MT and the dealer sent me some information on the car. He has down that the car and some accessories is $25,626 + $770 transportation + $348 "dealer fee" + TTL. Does this sound right for people ordering this car, or should there not even be a dealer fee associated with this?

05-15-2012, 03:13 PM	#6
Laika When In Doubt... Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Slowww Location: PA215 Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 1,023 Thanked 752 Times in 412 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah that's somewhat up there for a doc fee Congrats on going with GBS though! The rare unicorn of the BRZ colors __________________ Join the Galaxy Blue Silica BRZ registry below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing

05-15-2012, 03:14 PM	#7
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Most dealers in Florida are $299-$750 with ~450-500 being most common. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

05-15-2012, 10:27 PM	#12
BMWDavid Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '89 911, '06 GTI, '13 BRZ Location: USA Posts: 313 Thanks: 40 Thanked 62 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just ask them if it can be reduced. My dealer had a $249.00 doc fee. Got it down to $100.00 just by asking. Getting car @ MSRP. __________________ 2005 Honda XR650L 1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 Coupe 2006 VW GTI/DSG 2013 Subaru BRZ WRB Limited 6MT-gone but not forgotten 2014 Nissan Murano SV

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KevinDuMa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2004 Honda S2000 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 610 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know there are several people on here that got charged some fees. When you put your deposit down did you get a final price? My price was $25,495+ttl which was about $1700 and the destination charge of $770.

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Grimlock Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: BRZ and NA Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 878 Thanks: 46 Thanked 270 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Dealer fees usually vary by state and by dealership. Some dealers charge $99, some $199, and I've even see $499. It is supposed to be for the paperwork of processing your sale and dealing with the state for tax and tags, but in reality it's mostly profit for the dealership. In some (most?) states, it's not required by law (and they tell you that), but if they charge it to one customer, they have to charge it to all customers. The usual way to get around that fee is to ask the dealer to discount the price of the car by the amount of that fee. I have a hard time believing that would work for early BRZs.

05-15-2012, 03:10 PM	#5
thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In my experience you can usually negotiate the document/processing fees. But I don't know when you have a limited car that has a high demand. But it is worth a shot. $348 seems excessive. Most dealers in Minnesota typically charge a $75 doc fee from what I have seen, but did not check on the Subaru BRZ...

05-15-2012, 03:18 PM	#8
powertrip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Mercedes C320, S2000 Location: North Florida Posts: 155 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	$348 isnt so bad. could be worse. plus they arent trying to hose you with any add-ons so you might just have to bite the bullet on it.

05-15-2012, 08:27 PM	#10
DP82 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ LE Location: MD Posts: 92 Thanks: 18 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The bill of sale or pre-order should have everything broken out: MSRP TT&L Delivery Fee Doc Fee (varies by state... check out this link for more details: http://blog.truecar.com/2011/07/26/w...s-the-doc-fee/) Hope that helps! Anything beyond what is stated above I would question and research.

05-15-2012, 08:35 PM	#11
kensic Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: USA Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ok so they are charging you "dealer fees" ask them to DEFINE that fee. what consists in it. and such. I'm sure your concern will vanish after they go into details about that fees. cuz every other fees is self-explanatory.

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ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I was nervous bc I didn't negotiate the doc fee when ordering. Turns out they only charged $55!

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