Check out the Japan site! SIICCKK!!!

[Jay Grey]

http://toyota.jp/86/index.html

I didnt understand what was what... I did select tabs along the left side bars to stroll through to see the options for The Toyota 86. All I can say is that the Japanese version of the 86 with what options they offer is ridiculous. FR-S is SHIT comapred to over there. Japan really knows how to make me and some of our other members here upset. Example: color options for seating, standard navi/radio, standard push start. Damn, they even make an RC version that is base of base... Where you can do your own work for a possible track car. I'll show more later on tonight where Ill post some pics of the different models. Check out this album below...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/album.php?albumid=129

Toyota 86 GT Limited

Toyota 86 GT

Toyota 86 G

Toyota 86 RC

[Bristecom]

It has been up for a few months...

[michaelahess]

I did what I think was a rough comparison. Decked out like the BRZ Limited, the rough estimate was $42k for the same car, minus the 86's extra's like auto mirror, auto light leveling, and some other crap I can't remember.

Is the 86's Limited LSD the same as in the US? That seemed to be a special thing? Also I went with the cheapest of their nav systems, wow what options they have!

[switchlanez]

One way Toyota keeps the FR-S cost so low (around $25k) is by bulk-producing in monospec. It's like Costco bulk cheap. The stripped down R-spec 86 is over $25k and an 86 upgraded with premium 17" wheels and optional LSD (all standard on the FR-S) would probably cost closer to $27-28k USD. Dollar-yen conversion also has to do with it but if the FR-S were offered with options similar to the 86, it'd probably cost more overall. Pick your poison.

[Symbiont]

Translation per Google Chrome

[Jay Grey]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

One way Toyota keeps the FR-S cost so low (around $25k) is by bulk-producing in monospec. It's like Costco bulk cheap. The stripped down R-spec 86 is over $25k and an 86 upgraded with premium 17" wheels and optional LSD (all standard on the FR-S) would probably cost closer to $27-28k USD. Dollar-yen conversion also has to do with it but if the FR-S were offered with options similar to the 86, it'd probably cost more overall. Pick your poison.

Of course I know exactly what you are saying... I did the conversion & etc. I just think they should make it an option. For instance the BRZ has two option packages, though the FR-S has add ons for "Customizing" it doesnt have the same Jap feel! I love the FR-S dont get me wrong, I just need mine to be a Limited version. HID's, Push Start, Choice of interior seating color & so forth.

[tripjammer]

In reality the FR-S is a bit overpriced. Why? Look at the BRZ premium. It is only $1300 more and you get HIDS, Better Seats, and a "REAL" navigation system.

Actually only $3000 more than the FR-S gets the the BRZ limited which has everything. Actually kinda worth it. I admit the FR-S does look better than the BRZ, but those FR-S cheap looking halogen headlights....damn you Scion.

Actually I think there needs to be a even more stripped down version of the FR-S\BRZ, you know the one with the 16 inch steelies and no LSD and no AC. Let you add these as options if you want it.

To make the FR-S the deal of the century it really needed the HIDs as standard. Those are going to be a biotch to add later. AC is AC, sure the FR-S and BRZ premium AC looks like crap but it will not be worth it to try to add it using parts, unless its a plug and place replacement. Proximity\Push start will be easy to add, there are some aftermarket systems that use Toyota parts that sell for only $300. Custom covering the seats won't be too expensive either. But you will do none of this if you are leasing the car...so....

Damn you Scion!

But yeah I still love the FR-S for what it is (especially in whiteout!) But a black BRZ limited is probably what I am gonna go with.

[Jay Grey]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

In reality the FR-S is a bit overpriced. Why? Look at the BRZ premium. It is only $1300 more and you get HIDS, Better Seats, and a "REAL" navigation system.

Actually only $3000 more than the FR-S gets the the BRZ limited which has everything. Actually kinda worth it. I admit the FR-S does look better than the BRZ, but those FR-S cheap looking halogen headlights....damn you Scion.

I 150% agree with you on this! I would pay the extra $1300 for the HID & Navi... I think its worth it, this is a car they wanted to wow people with. They could have gave it the wow factor by simply adding those touches as the standard FR-S. The BRZ limited is nice, but I'm a Toyota guy & the front end of the BRZ isn't that great compared to the 86.

[Symbiont]

I'm assuming that, at some point, an aftermarket HID system will be available for the FR-S... at least I hope so.

[Jay Grey]

Originally Posted by Symbiont

I'm assuming that, at some point, an aftermarket HID system will be available for the FR-S... at least I hope so.

Forget bout aftermarket, they should just put the damn thing in it already. At this point I'm probably gonna join the Darkside & go with the BRZ Limited 6spd Gray.

[ichitaka05]

Yeah knew about that site for a few months now. I'm registered in 86 society too!

[Jay Grey]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah knew about that site for a few months now. I'm registered in 86 society too!

I knew bout he site too, just didn't get to see it completed with every posted up there. I might have to check that out.

[Symbiont]

Originally Posted by Jay Grey

Forget bout aftermarket, they should just put the damn thing in it already. At this point I'm probably gonna join the Darkside & go with the BRZ Limited 6spd Gray.

I prefer the suspension and front end of the FR-S, unfortunately.

[TuxedoCartman]

I just can't get over how much classier the Japanese site is. They make it look like you're purchasing a luxury car, not something that's been billed as the successor to an 80's model Corolla.

And I'm torn on the Area 86 issue. On the one hand, it's a freakin' awesome concept, to have a place to go to discuss parts, performance, and race events solely for the 86. But on the other... do you really want to see how Scion would handle this? <shudder>