Spinouts

[z3ro]

Now, pardon my newbiness/dumbness/etc, but is there some sort of magical trick to getting this thing to smoothly drift corners? I've tried twice without any driver assistance on and spun out both times (luckily no one was around so i escaped with my pride and car unharmed). Now i know its no where near the same thing, but i used to slide my 5,300 lb pickup in the rain or in the dirt with no issues. After a lot of practice i was able to get it down pretty smooth and transition my "drifts." Now with this car its a totally different nightmare. It just wants to keep spinning.

Any tips/tricks? I'm trying at relatively low speeds (~25-30mph) in 2nd gear. No ebrake used, either a clutch kick or just full power then release. Any advice is greatly appreciated and any shit talking is appreciated even more so - i love e-thuggin, it gives me a hardon.

[Tt3Sheppard]

I would try this in a parking lot if anything. First I would start with sport mode so you get a feel for the back end coming out. I would then stay in 1st gear and practice with all nannies off. Throttle modulation is probably the best way to keep her from spinning.

[humfrz]

Well, cut the wheel and hit the gas ....

humfrz - being a big help .....

[z3ro]

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard

I would try this in a parking lot if anything. First I would start with sport mode so you get a feel for the back end coming out. I would then stay in 1st gear and practice with all nannies off. Throttle modulation is probably the best way to keep her from spinning.

Oh i can do it with no issues with sport mode but there was a major concern on my part about the stress its putting on the rear brakes. I had posted a thread recently about a tire tech yelling at me about working the brakes to hard and the rotors having hairline cracks.

I'll have to work on throttle modulation though; thanks for the advice! Any way to do this without an empty lot?

[z3ro]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, cut the wheel and hit the gas ....

humfrz - being a big help .....

that's whats gotten me into trouble every other time

[Muskokan]

Go faster, in a parking lot, preferably wet.

The speed I found when I was learning made it easier to predict and catch the countersteer.

For the love of your preferred religion don't try and teach yourself on public roads, sounds like you consider yourself lucky nobody was around when you spun out, you wanna keep relying on luck?

[STV3]

I'm a newb at this too and what I've been learning is throttle control is very important and I've also been doing some left foot braking to help keep control

[z3ro]

Originally Posted by Muskokan

Go faster, in a parking lot, preferably wet.

The speed I found when I was learning made it easier to predict and catch the countersteer.

For the love of your preferred religion don't try and teach yourself on public roads, sounds like you consider yourself lucky nobody was around when you spun out, you wanna keep relying on luck?

oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

[636]

Originally Posted by z3ro

oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

You can see if there's any local drift-areas to practice in. Consider looking 200+ miles away as well.

One just opened up around me and it's got a beginner section to help teach people.

Besides that, I can't really think of any safe areas if you don't have an open lot.

[Muskokan]

Originally Posted by z3ro

oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

Frozen lake and snow tires?
Dunno if It gets cold enough down your neck of the woods.

Town of 30k people should have some big empty lots in the middle of the night.
Cops can't do shit in canada because lots are private property, dunno bout down there though.

But if you really wanna start drifting you have to in an open environment, cause when your learning, you have no Effin clue where your gunna end up after a spin, I've adjusted mine to a ton of space cause a couple of my spins you just keep on slidin...

[dem00n]

Auto x, you'll learn by accident.

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Muskokan

Frozen lake and snow tires?
Dunno if It gets cold enough down your neck of the woods.

Town of 30k people should have some big empty lots in the middle of the night.
Cops can't do shit in canada because lots are private property, dunno bout down there though.

But if you really wanna start drifting you have to in an open environment, cause when your learning, you have no Effin clue where your gunna end up after a spin, I've adjusted mine to a ton of space cause a couple of my spins you just keep on slidin...

I would advise caution on private property -

While careless driving under the H.T.A. has to take place on a highway,
Dangerous driving is anywhere , and it is a CRIMINAL offence.

There are also other powers the po-po have in relation to private property where the public has access.

We like to play in parking lots of isolated industrial areas rather than mall lots - much less visible.





CERBERUS

[ZionsWrath]

Yea, when entering private property without the owners consent you are entering a whole other ball game.

[strat61caster]

Agreed on stay off public roads, you never know who's around. A couple years ago a guy goofing off in his 350z killed a retired couple out on a walk near my house, by all accounts a quiet road with 'nobody around'.

Setting that aside, I think you're used to breaking traction in your truck or sport mode which require much more aggressive input to get sliding. With the aids off you should be able to get the desired effect with less effort, more finesse. Try starting slow with low input and then increasing the inputs each pass until you get a feel for getting it sideways.

But seriously, go find a sanctioned event. Even moderate instruction will be more effective than ANY post on the internet.