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z3ro 12-20-2013 12:31 PM

Spinouts
 
Now, pardon my newbiness/dumbness/etc, but is there some sort of magical trick to getting this thing to smoothly drift corners? I've tried twice without any driver assistance on and spun out both times (luckily no one was around so i escaped with my pride and car unharmed). Now i know its no where near the same thing, but i used to slide my 5,300 lb pickup in the rain or in the dirt with no issues. After a lot of practice i was able to get it down pretty smooth and transition my "drifts." Now with this car its a totally different nightmare. It just wants to keep spinning.

Any tips/tricks? I'm trying at relatively low speeds (~25-30mph) in 2nd gear. No ebrake used, either a clutch kick or just full power then release. Any advice is greatly appreciated and any shit talking is appreciated even more so - i love e-thuggin, it gives me a hardon.

Tt3Sheppard 12-20-2013 12:37 PM

I would try this in a parking lot if anything. First I would start with sport mode so you get a feel for the back end coming out. I would then stay in 1st gear and practice with all nannies off. Throttle modulation is probably the best way to keep her from spinning.

humfrz 12-20-2013 12:45 PM

Well, cut the wheel and hit the gas ....;)

humfrz - being a big help ..... :(

z3ro 12-20-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 1402419)
I would try this in a parking lot if anything. First I would start with sport mode so you get a feel for the back end coming out. I would then stay in 1st gear and practice with all nannies off. Throttle modulation is probably the best way to keep her from spinning.

Oh i can do it with no issues with sport mode but there was a major concern on my part about the stress its putting on the rear brakes. I had posted a thread recently about a tire tech yelling at me about working the brakes to hard and the rotors having hairline cracks.

I'll have to work on throttle modulation though; thanks for the advice! Any way to do this without an empty lot?

z3ro 12-20-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1402441)
Well, cut the wheel and hit the gas ....;)

humfrz - being a big help ..... :(

that's whats gotten me into trouble every other time :thumbup:

Muskokan 12-20-2013 12:49 PM

Go faster, in a parking lot, preferably wet.

The speed I found when I was learning made it easier to predict and catch the countersteer.

For the love of your preferred religion don't try and teach yourself on public roads, sounds like you consider yourself lucky nobody was around when you spun out, you wanna keep relying on luck?

STV3 12-20-2013 12:50 PM

I'm a newb at this too and what I've been learning is throttle control is very important and I've also been doing some left foot braking to help keep control

z3ro 12-20-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1402452)
Go faster, in a parking lot, preferably wet.

The speed I found when I was learning made it easier to predict and catch the countersteer.

For the love of your preferred religion don't try and teach yourself on public roads, sounds like you consider yourself lucky nobody was around when you spun out, you wanna keep relying on luck?

oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

636 12-20-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3ro (Post 1402461)
oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

You can see if there's any local drift-areas to practice in. Consider looking 200+ miles away as well.

One just opened up around me and it's got a beginner section to help teach people. :happyanim:

Besides that, I can't really think of any safe areas if you don't have an open lot. :(

Muskokan 12-20-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3ro (Post 1402461)
oh god no because i am the unluckiest person in the world. eh, i shouldn't say that, i'm actually pretty fortunate.

as far as the open lot suggestion, i live in a town of about 30k people with horrible roads. That and cops that don't have a lot to do. Big, empty lots are kind of a unicorn around here.

Frozen lake and snow tires?
Dunno if It gets cold enough down your neck of the woods.

Town of 30k people should have some big empty lots in the middle of the night.
Cops can't do shit in canada because lots are private property, dunno bout down there though.

But if you really wanna start drifting you have to in an open environment, cause when your learning, you have no Effin clue where your gunna end up after a spin, I've adjusted mine to a ton of space cause a couple of my spins you just keep on slidin...

dem00n 12-20-2013 01:01 PM

Auto x, you'll learn by accident.

RFB 12-20-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1402476)
Frozen lake and snow tires?
Dunno if It gets cold enough down your neck of the woods.

Town of 30k people should have some big empty lots in the middle of the night.
Cops can't do shit in canada because lots are private property, dunno bout down there though.

But if you really wanna start drifting you have to in an open environment, cause when your learning, you have no Effin clue where your gunna end up after a spin, I've adjusted mine to a ton of space cause a couple of my spins you just keep on slidin...

I would advise caution on private property -

While careless driving under the H.T.A. has to take place on a highway,
Dangerous driving is anywhere , and it is a CRIMINAL offence.

There are also other powers the po-po have in relation to private property where the public has access.

We like to play in parking lots of isolated industrial areas rather than mall lots - much less visible.

:burnrubber:

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CERBERUS

ZionsWrath 12-20-2013 01:13 PM

Yea, when entering private property without the owners consent you are entering a whole other ball game.

strat61caster 12-20-2013 01:52 PM

Agreed on stay off public roads, you never know who's around. A couple years ago a guy goofing off in his 350z killed a retired couple out on a walk near my house, by all accounts a quiet road with 'nobody around'.

Setting that aside, I think you're used to breaking traction in your truck or sport mode which require much more aggressive input to get sliding. With the aids off you should be able to get the desired effect with less effort, more finesse. Try starting slow with low input and then increasing the inputs each pass until you get a feel for getting it sideways.

But seriously, go find a sanctioned event. Even moderate instruction will be more effective than ANY post on the internet.


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