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Old 10-28-2013, 02:06 PM   #1
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Clanking from Rear Suspension After Alignment(w/ KW V3, Cusco LCA, Whiteline Toe Arm)

Hey everyone, I had:

KW V3, Cusco LCA, Whiteline Toe Arms.

And I kinda slammed the car. -1.7 camber every corner, 0 toes all around.

I heard some clanking from my rear suspension after alignment. And I can only hear it at LOW SPEED....

When I turn or hit bump at low speed, I can hear 1-3 clanking from rear suspension. It sounds like someone lose a socket there. I dont think the clanking comes from trunk cuz I dont have this issue before alignment. I can replicate it every time.

It is kinda strange that I can't hear anything at high speed.

So I m thinking whether it comes from KW V3 or from other suspension parts. I can not hear any noise before the alignment. Before that I did not drop the car alot cus I just waited the coilovers to be settled.

Here r some pictures. You may see that the springs touch together.

Anyone has the same issue? Thanks.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:19 PM   #2
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Could be from the spherical bearing on the Cusco LCA. I was beta testing a LCA for Figs Engineering and had a clicking/popping noise come from the spherical bearing at the subframe mounting point. I installed SPC LCA's when I was done beta testing and it's been silent.

One way to troubleshoot this is to get under the car while someone pushes down on the rear and see if you can isolate where the noise is coming from.
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CV Joints? Mine apparently were clanking at a low speed and when hitting bumps at low speed. Eventually my CV snapped on the driver side.
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i can't open your pictures to view bigger. that top spring is the helper spring, its almost always compressed but why is it compressed with all weight off the car?

my cusco LCA's dont make any noise, the only noise i have is from my whiteline tophats, but thats a known issue.

is there enough clearance between the rear sway bar and the coilover? could that be hitting at low speeds?

also this should be moved to suspension sub forum as this is not an OEM issue.

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Could be from the spherical bearing on the Cusco LCA. I was beta testing a LCA for Figs Engineering and had a clicking/popping noise come from the spherical bearing at the subframe mounting point. I installed SPC LCA's when I was done beta testing and it's been silent.

One way to troubleshoot this is to get under the car while someone pushes down on the rear and see if you can isolate where the noise is coming from.
But I dont have problem before.. I run Cusco LCA for about 3 weeks and no issue. The clanking noise just created after I dropped it and did alignment..lol..

I will try to figure out where the noise come from.
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i can't open your pictures to view bigger. that top spring is the helper spring, its almost always compressed but why is it compressed with all weight off the car?

my cusco LCA's dont make any noise, the only noise i have is from my whiteline tophats, but thats a known issue.

is there enough clearance between the rear sway bar and the coilover? could that be hitting at low speeds?

also this should be moved to suspension sub forum as this is not an OEM issue.
Thank you Jive..

I will try to figure out the issue. But first I just need to make sure that its wont be dangerous to drive a car with this kind of noise..

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CV Joints? Mine apparently were clanking at a low speed and when hitting bumps at low speed. Eventually my CV snapped on the driver side.
So sorry to hear about that. Did you fix it?
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Why is it compressed with all weight off the car?
Mine is like this as well. I don't have adjustable rear arms, to get the camber I wanted I raised the car higher than the KW's would normally run at. Preloaded the spring a bit but no biggie.

I had that happen a few weeks after install of my coils too after driving on a bumpy road. The nut that holds the shock to the top mount is probably loose. See if you can turn it. If so you will have to take the rear coils off, tighten the top nut and reinstall them. Will only make sound a low speeds.
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it shouldn't be dangerous to drive, you suspensions wont fall off and it doesn't sound liek you will damage anyhting.

it could be the top hats, but there are so many possibilities just go back and re-TQ everything and make sure lube is where it needs to be i guess?
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it shouldn't be dangerous to drive, you suspensions wont fall off and it doesn't sound liek you will damage anyhting.

it could be the top hats, but there are so many possibilities just go back and re-TQ everything and make sure lube is where it needs to be i guess?
Thank you. I will check the lube first and to see whether the issue is going to be fixed or not.

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Mine is like this as well. I don't have adjustable rear arms, to get the camber I wanted I raised the car higher than the KW's would normally run at. Preloaded the spring a bit but no biggie.

I had that happen a few weeks after install of my coils too after driving on a bumpy road. The nut that holds the shock to the top mount is probably loose. See if you can turn it. If so you will have to take the rear coils off, tighten the top nut and reinstall them. Will only make sound a low speeds.
Iv seen someone has a similar problem and fixed it by making the center nuts of KW V3 tighter. I think I can turn it without taking it off right? Just dont want to mess up the alignment..
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if you just unbolt the coilover and dont adjust any heigh or anyhting else you wont change a thing. its all fixed.

you might be able to get a thin walled socket in there but you also need and allen key to keep it steady...might be a bitch on the car.

or see if hte shop that did the alignment will fix it for you since the symptoms happened AFTER alignment?
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^ this.

If all you do is take off the coilover, use a hex wrench and a socket to tighten the nut and reinstall the coilover you won't effect anything with the alignment.

I doubt the shop will do anything since that has nothing to do with making alignment changes they are not going to take the blame.
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Thank you Jive..

I will try to figure out the issue. But first I just need to make sure that its wont be dangerous to drive a car with this kind of noise..



So sorry to hear about that. Did you fix it?
Yes, my driver side was completely destroyed. I bought DSS axles to replace the OEM (they weren't that much more $$). I know a number of locals that after lowing their car they started getting a "clicking" from the rear, it appears to be the axles. Double check your spindle nut on the axle make sure it is tight and in factory spec. Seems like some people have had them slightly loose from the factory and the axle is able to shift slightly in and out of hub making a clicking sound. Depending on your height you may just bee too low. What is your current ride height like?
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Yes, my driver side was completely destroyed. I bought DSS axles to replace the OEM (they weren't that much more $$). I know a number of locals that after lowing their car they started getting a "clicking" from the rear, it appears to be the axles. Double check your spindle nut on the axle make sure it is tight and in factory spec. Seems like some people have had them slightly loose from the factory and the axle is able to shift slightly in and out of hub making a clicking sound. Depending on your height you may just bee too low. What is your current ride height like?
Now I hav a little bit less than one finger gap on the rear. I just drop it for 1 day, so might not be the issue of the axis right?
I can only hear noise at low speed, its OK at high speed.
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^ this.

If all you do is take off the coilover, use a hex wrench and a socket to tighten the nut and reinstall the coilover you won't effect anything with the alignment.

I doubt the shop will do anything since that has nothing to do with making alignment changes they are not going to take the blame.
I will have to check it anyway. lol.. hope its not a issue of axis.


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if you just unbolt the coilover and dont adjust any heigh or anyhting else you wont change a thing. its all fixed.

you might be able to get a thin walled socket in there but you also need and allen key to keep it steady...might be a bitch on the car.

or see if hte shop that did the alignment will fix it for you since the symptoms happened AFTER alignment?
I will check the alignment first. Can only do it on Saturday cuz they close at 5pm at weekdays.
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