Dead spot when changing from 1st to 2nd? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Mike Hoxbig · 02-23-2013, 09:26 AM

Hey guys, has anyone experienced a dead spot when snap-changing from 1st to 2nd? I've noticed this happen even in Sport mode, so traction control would have been off. It's happened to me twice so far - changing up from 1st at about 7,000, it moves to about 5,000 in second which should be in the optimal power band, but went dead before coming alive again.

sav · 02-23-2013, 11:21 AM

Nope, snap changing from 1st to 2nd results in the rear wheels spinning up, no flat spots...

sierra · 02-23-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Hoxbig

Hey guys, has anyone experienced a dead spot when snap-changing from 1st to 2nd? I've noticed this happen even in Sport mode, so traction control would have been off. It's happened to me twice so far - changing up from 1st at about 7,000, it moves to about 5,000 in second which should be in the optimal power band, but went dead before coming alive again.

How many km/miles on the clock?
Mine had a throttle delay that gradually improved and was good by about 1,000km. Could it be that, with the ECU learning?

Mike Hoxbig · 02-23-2013, 01:05 PM

About 2,500 km, engine has already been run in

doesn't happen all the time, but I've noticed it twice so far.

sierra · 02-23-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Hoxbig

About 2,500 km, engine has already been run in

doesn't happen all the time, but I've noticed it twice so far.

Try turning everything off? The traction control will still be active in sports mode.

Mike Hoxbig · 02-24-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sierra

Try turning everything off? The traction control will still be active in sports mode.

Thanks I'll try that, although its not really suitable for everyday driving. The bit I'm confused about is that when you put in in sports mode, the indicator light on the dash shows traction control being off, with only stability control being in sports mode.

sierra · 02-24-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Hoxbig

Thanks I'll try that, although its not really suitable for everyday driving. The bit I'm confused about is that when you put in in sports mode, the indicator light on the dash shows traction control being off, with only stability control being in sports mode.

I only meant to try it turned off to test that scenario. I leave mine on all the time and still get plenty of noise from the tyres.
In sports mode the stability control might still cut the power if the back wheels were losing it big time?

KapteinBos · 02-25-2013, 12:00 AM

Manual says in sports mode SC is still on but less sensitive...?

mRdeMs83 · 02-25-2013, 12:21 AM

How do you turn the feature on properly? Is it just a matter for pressing the button?

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KapteinBos · 02-25-2013, 12:39 AM

Hold Traction Control (left button) in for 3 seconds and all are completely off. Press same button once when stationary and TC is off untill you get to 50kmph (for mud and snow). Press Sport button (right) once and Sport mode is on...

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sierra · 02-25-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mRdeMs83

How do you turn the feature on properly? Is it just a matter for pressing the button?

Argento ate6

It's always on when you start up. You can then either select 'sports'' to reduce the intervention or choose 'off'. To turn it completely off you need to hold down the 'off' button for 3 secs.

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mRdeMs83 · 02-25-2013, 01:27 AM

Vcs/sport button? Hold it down or the trac button?

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brian_c_m · 02-25-2013, 10:35 AM

Hi Mike

I haven't noticed any issues on mine either. Like Sav, I happily spin from 1st to 2nd and even 2nd to 3rd without dead spots and with nanny aids on.

Sounds like it might be a fuel injection issue which i've heard is also responsible for the Check Engine Light (CEL) issue that a lot of other members are experiencing.

What might be useful is, if you have a smart phone, to get yourself an OBD ii device and see if the car is reporting any error codes?

I think that if it were the nanny controls causing this then they'd be flashing whenever this issue occurred.

Good luck.

Vic_RSA · 02-25-2013, 11:58 AM

Is this a flat spot? I have found giving it a blip between changes my compensate. My first test drive was met with the dealer power-shifting aggressively. the car had less than 100km!

02-23-2013, 09:26 AM	#1
Mike Hoxbig Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Toyota 86 High 6MT Location: Johannesburg Posts: 91 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dead spot when changing from 1st to 2nd? Hey guys, has anyone experienced a dead spot when snap-changing from 1st to 2nd? I've noticed this happen even in Sport mode, so traction control would have been off. It's happened to me twice so far - changing up from 1st at about 7,000, it moves to about 5,000 in second which should be in the optimal power band, but went dead before coming alive again.

02-23-2013, 11:21 AM	#2
sav Official anti-BS squad Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 High 6MT Location: South Africa Posts: 2,365 Thanks: 379 Thanked 452 Times in 309 Posts Mentioned: 72 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nope, snap changing from 1st to 2nd results in the rear wheels spinning up, no flat spots... __________________ Toyota 86 High 6MT (Satin Pearl White) 95RON SAV Tuned

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Mike Hoxbig Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Toyota 86 High 6MT Location: Johannesburg Posts: 91 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	About 2,500 km, engine has already been run in doesn't happen all the time, but I've noticed it twice so far.

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KapteinBos Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Toyota 86, Pearl White, Manual Location: Johannesburg Posts: 175 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Manual says in sports mode SC is still on but less sensitive...?

02-25-2013, 12:39 AM	#10
KapteinBos Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Toyota 86, Pearl White, Manual Location: Johannesburg Posts: 175 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hold Traction Control (left button) in for 3 seconds and all are completely off. Press same button once when stationary and TC is off untill you get to 50kmph (for mud and snow). Press Sport button (right) once and Sport mode is on... Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

02-25-2013, 10:35 AM	#13
brian_c_m Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 - Silver High Spec Location: Johannesburg - South Africa Posts: 125 Thanks: 43 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hi Mike I haven't noticed any issues on mine either. Like Sav, I happily spin from 1st to 2nd and even 2nd to 3rd without dead spots and with nanny aids on. Sounds like it might be a fuel injection issue which i've heard is also responsible for the Check Engine Light (CEL) issue that a lot of other members are experiencing. What might be useful is, if you have a smart phone, to get yourself an OBD ii device and see if the car is reporting any error codes? I think that if it were the nanny controls causing this then they'd be flashing whenever this issue occurred. Good luck.

02-25-2013, 11:58 AM	#14
Vic_RSA The voice of reason... Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2012 Toyota 86 6MT Standard Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 740 Thanks: 335 Thanked 99 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is this a flat spot? I have found giving it a blip between changes my compensate. My first test drive was met with the dealer power-shifting aggressively. the car had less than 100km!

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