First Auto-X in an FR-S/RWD - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Im_SPEED · 09-16-2012, 02:00 AM

so this was my first run of the first Autocross in my new FR-s im a 3 year vet. of my old 04 Celica. so i kinda like to think i almost know what im doing. but this is down right funny/crappy. only mods are Rims and tires no Alignment done yet.
just want to let you know i did get alot better the rest of the day, my best run was a 47.9 but coned it way.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBABVN_6gvM"]"Look daddy I'm A farmer" SSSCC 9/15 - YouTube[/ame]

Guff · 09-16-2012, 03:02 AM

That dude must have been terrified.

Ravenlokk · 09-16-2012, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff

That dude must have been terrified.

^ I was thinkin the same thing.

I need to get out in my FR-S, its also my first true RWD car lol.

OmarGC · 09-16-2012, 04:43 AM

this is my 1st rwd car......... that's underpowered.

Im_SPEED · 09-16-2012, 09:09 AM

It wasnt so bad the car sits so far off the ground i knew i wouldnt hurt anything. I have went off around the same place side ways in the celica and popped the beads off the tires so this was nothing.

sdwztofu · 09-16-2012, 09:32 AM

This will probably be me the first couple times I track/autox mine lol. I am used to driving a 508 whp evo X so this is a pretty big change for me. Looks like a pretty fun autox course as well all the ones around my area are super tight.

Im_SPEED · 09-17-2012, 12:30 AM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtIaOIMJ2o&feature=g-upl"]last run 9/16/12 SSSCC - YouTube[/ame]

to prove im not a complete failure at autocross. BTW any pointers or tips from watching the video are always welcome if your not being a JACKA$$. :p

Propaganda · 09-17-2012, 05:12 PM

was gonna say you could improve on your lines... but then I watched your second video... big improvement in that.

When you started to lose it and go off track in your first video, did you try to save/correct it and ride it out? Also curious if you know how fast you were going right before?

SeattleJeremy · 09-17-2012, 05:24 PM

I thought an off like that would require you to stop the run, and re-do the tech inspection. Why did you keep going?

Im_SPEED · 09-17-2012, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleJeremy

I thought an off like that would require you to stop the run, and re-do the tech inspection. Why did you keep going?

no we dont have to re-tech it was a DNF but it was my first so i wanted to try to see the rest of the course at speed. people get kinda pissy if you drag dirt back on the track thats why i stayed off to the side of a few feet to make sure all the dirt was gone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Propaganda

was gonna say you could improve on your lines... but then I watched your second video... big improvement in that.

When you started to lose it and go off track in your first video, did you try to save/correct it and ride it out? Also curious if you know how fast you were going right before?

I honesty just road it out i knew i couldnt save it. i dont know how fast i was going i miss the sun roof in my celica for that reason only because i could mount the gopro upside down and see my hands,speedo,tac,and the track

Vanguard · 09-17-2012, 09:19 PM

First off, what rubber are you on?

The next thing I'd say is that you were going through a transition that was off-camber to on-camber. That can be a jolt to your suspension geometry that most stock cars don't handle quite well. Do you remember how smooth your input was? If it was quick, that could have unsettled the car resulting in the "FEED ME CORNER WORKERS" slide of death.

Im_SPEED · 09-18-2012, 01:38 AM

Running R1r in 245/40/17 yayaya i know the car is to heavy for those tire but i figure would try. And honestly i feel that was the cause of my slide is because i was to jearky with my inputs.. i could get away with the in my FWD. After that run i smothed my inputs and never spun again.

Propaganda · 09-18-2012, 03:23 PM

Smooth might look/feel slow, but it can be a hell of a lot faster

Also, not sure how it is in your region, but we have a low tolerance for drifting (not saying you did) and have guidelines for spinounts. If you ever start to spin (beyond normal oversteer); don't try to ride it out or save it, just put both feet on the clutch and brake (or brake if its an auto). It works wonders and stops you decently quick without prolonging a slide/loss of control. Where you went off and were headed in the direction of a person going at least 25mph, that would be a big "no no" in my region and you probably wouldn't be allowed to run the rest of the day.

It's worked for me and others I know. It just prevents countersteer + countersteer + further loss of control. Just something to be mindful of

Tt3Sheppard · 09-18-2012, 08:11 PM

I'm curious were your running with traction and stab off?

09-16-2012, 02:00 AM	#1
Im_SPEED Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS hot lava Location: Oregon Posts: 151 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	First Auto-X in an FR-S/RWD so this was my first run of the first Autocross in my new FR-s im a 3 year vet. of my old 04 Celica. so i kinda like to think i almost know what im doing. but this is down right funny/crappy. only mods are Rims and tires no Alignment done yet. just want to let you know i did get alot better the rest of the day, my best run was a 47.9 but coned it way. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBABVN_6gvM"]"Look daddy I'm A farmer" SSSCC 9/15 - YouTube[/ame] Last edited by Guff; 09-16-2012 at 02:59 AM.

09-16-2012, 04:43 AM	#4
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09-16-2012, 09:09 AM	#5
Im_SPEED Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS hot lava Location: Oregon Posts: 151 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It wasnt so bad the car sits so far off the ground i knew i wouldnt hurt anything. I have went off around the same place side ways in the celica and popped the beads off the tires so this was nothing. Last edited by Im_SPEED; 09-16-2012 at 10:41 AM.

09-16-2012, 09:32 AM	#6
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09-17-2012, 12:30 AM	#7
Im_SPEED Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS hot lava Location: Oregon Posts: 151 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtIaOIMJ2o&feature=g-upl"]last run 9/16/12 SSSCC - YouTube[/ame] to prove im not a complete failure at autocross. BTW any pointers or tips from watching the video are always welcome if your not being a JACKA$$. :p

09-17-2012, 05:12 PM	#8
Propaganda Diamonds & Cadillacs Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: '13 fr-s, 1974 911s Location: Internet Posts: 392 Thanks: 162 Thanked 157 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	was gonna say you could improve on your lines... but then I watched your second video... big improvement in that. When you started to lose it and go off track in your first video, did you try to save/correct it and ride it out? Also curious if you know how fast you were going right before?

09-17-2012, 05:24 PM	#9
SeattleJeremy Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Vibe Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 86 Thanks: 70 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought an off like that would require you to stop the run, and re-do the tech inspection. Why did you keep going?

09-17-2012, 09:19 PM	#11
Vanguard Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Ford F-150 (not for long) Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	First off, what rubber are you on? The next thing I'd say is that you were going through a transition that was off-camber to on-camber. That can be a jolt to your suspension geometry that most stock cars don't handle quite well. Do you remember how smooth your input was? If it was quick, that could have unsettled the car resulting in the "FEED ME CORNER WORKERS" slide of death.

09-18-2012, 01:38 AM	#12
Im_SPEED Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS hot lava Location: Oregon Posts: 151 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Running R1r in 245/40/17 yayaya i know the car is to heavy for those tire but i figure would try. And honestly i feel that was the cause of my slide is because i was to jearky with my inputs.. i could get away with the in my FWD. After that run i smothed my inputs and never spun again.

09-18-2012, 03:23 PM	#13
Propaganda Diamonds & Cadillacs Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: '13 fr-s, 1974 911s Location: Internet Posts: 392 Thanks: 162 Thanked 157 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Smooth might look/feel slow, but it can be a hell of a lot faster Also, not sure how it is in your region, but we have a low tolerance for drifting (not saying you did) and have guidelines for spinounts. If you ever start to spin (beyond normal oversteer); don't try to ride it out or save it, just put both feet on the clutch and brake (or brake if its an auto). It works wonders and stops you decently quick without prolonging a slide/loss of control. Where you went off and were headed in the direction of a person going at least 25mph, that would be a big "no no" in my region and you probably wouldn't be allowed to run the rest of the day. It's worked for me and others I know. It just prevents countersteer + countersteer + further loss of control. Just something to be mindful of

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