Do last gen brake pads fit new gen?

[Powersfrs]

Is there confirmation last gen brake pads fit new gen? Brakes on new gen are descent with good pedal feel. I get em pretty hot on canyon drives and so I need an upgrade.
Looking into hawks hp+.

[jvincent]

Yes, they are the same size.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Powersfrs

Is there confirmation last gen brake pads fit new gen? Brakes on new gen are descent with good pedal feel. I get em pretty hot on canyon drives and so I need an upgrade.
Looking into hawks hp+.

Can you smell them? Is the pedal going soft like your boiling the fluid, or going hard like you've overheated the pads?

[Powersfrs]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Can you smell them? Is the pedal going soft like your boiling the fluid, or going hard like you've overheated the pads?

I can smell them
Pedal goes soft-ish.
Stopping gets longer.
I don’t go hard core on public roads yet the pads/fluids get hot and well they loose stopping distance/power.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Powersfrs

I can smell them
Pedal goes soft-ish.
Stopping gets longer.
I don’t go hard core on public roads yet the pads/fluids get hot and well they loose stopping distance/power.

If you're getting the fluid that hot on the street, you should really take it to the track. And flush what you have in there with some quality stuff.

[Powersfrs]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

If you're getting the fluid that hot on the street, you should really take it to the track. And flush what you have in there with some quality stuff.

I’m not boiling the fluid …the pads just can’t handle any descent heat. I’m also looking into more stopping power.

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by Powersfrs

I’m not boiling the fluid …the pads just can’t handle any descent heat. I’m also looking into more stopping power.

I had this problem on my last car, upgraded to EBC yellows and was very happy with the results.

[Powersfrs]

Originally Posted by Midnightsky

I had this problem on my last car, upgraded to EBC yellows and was very happy with the results.

Was it a night and day difference in stopping power? How was the squeaking and dust? Those are actually my second option.

[Up4speed]

You may want to try Ferodo 2500's. They are excellent pads for street/track. Work great, little to no squeal, and capable of track days. I've never tried them on a BRZ, but they work great on my GTI, and I track it all the time. I also recommend Motul RBF600/660 fluid.

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by Powersfrs

Was it a night and day difference in stopping power? How was the squeaking and dust? Those are actually my second option.

There are 2 options when it comes to dust and brake pads. You can either accept the dust that comes with a performance pad(yes some are a little better than others), or you accept the minimal stopping capabilities of a non performance pad. Unfortunately once you goto a performance pad, you will always be compromising on the extra brake dust. But, fear not, because the additional stopping power is 1000%(yes 1 thousand lol) worth it. There is lots of fantastic products out there today to help keep your wheels clean from the extra brake dust. Do not fear the brake dust, it's a mosquito bite compared to the angry polar bear mauling from brake fade and no runoff area.

The extra dust on the EBC's yellows was quite high compared to OEM. Unfortunately I don't have anything else to compare it to personally yet. The increase in stopping power was significant, no more brake fade was nice too lol.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Powersfrs

I’m not boiling the fluid …the pads just can’t handle any descent heat. I’m also looking into more stopping power.

Yes, you are.

https://www.powerstop.com/brake-fade...ke-fluid-boil/

[Powersfrs]

Originally Posted by Up4speed

You may want to try Ferodo 2500's. They are excellent pads for street/track. Work great, little to no squeal, and capable of track days. I've never tried them on a BRZ, but they work great on my GTI, and I track it all the time. I also recommend Motul RBF600/660 fluid.

Thank you I’ll look into this setup!

[Powersfrs]

Originally Posted by Midnightsky

There are 2 options when it comes to dust and brake pads. You can either accept the dust that comes with a performance pad(yes some are a little better than others), or you accept the minimal stopping capabilities of a non performance pad. Unfortunately once you goto a performance pad, you will always be compromising on the extra brake dust. But, fear not, because the additional stopping power is 1000%(yes 1 thousand lol) worth it. There is lots of fantastic products out there today to help keep your wheels clean from the extra brake dust. Do not fear the brake dust, it's a mosquito bite compared to the angry polar bear mauling from brake fade and no runoff area.

The extra dust on the EBC's yellows was quite high compared to OEM. Unfortunately I don't have anything else to compare it to personally yet. The increase in stopping power was significant, no more brake fade was nice too lol.

Yeah I’m totally ok with dust and some squeal. I definitely want more stopping power with the added performance I got from my suspension setup. I had a type r previous to this car and those brembos were really good. I never had an issue and I did the same type of driving I currently do with the BRZ.
Thanks for your input

[LRNAD90]

I think it is a little confusing that people keep referencing 'stopping power'. Most OEM brakes are more than capable of providing enough stopping power to lock up wheels. So this means, generally, it is the tire that is the limitation in outright stopping power.

But we all know the stock brakes are designed to stop the vehicle hard once, maybe twice before being given a break to cool..

I see the advantage in better pads, higher boiling point fluids and even larger brake systems in maintaining stopping power under aggressive driving conditions, but not in increased 'stopping power'.

Even when you get into large monobloc multi piston calipers, my understanding is that they are not about applying more clamping force, they are about being able to use larger (and often times thicker) pads and still applying that force evenly across the pad surface. As well as the ability to user larger, thicker rotors with better heat tolerances, and often better venting systems for shedding that heat. Ultimately it is all about managing heat better.

I think this term is a bit misleading to the uneducated, and may lead to the belief they will get shorter stopping distances, which given the same tire, isn't likely to be true..

More 'stopping power' would require more capable tires to be utilized, otherwise it would just be wasted anyway. Aren't we really talking about maintaining stopping power, pedal feel and hopefully increasing the life of the pad/components in the process?