Tune systems for FRS GT 86 BRZ

[steve99]

Tune systems for FRS GT 86 BRZ

Quick summary of tune systems that are popular on this platform.

Tactrix/Ecuflash
Open source
No tunes supplied
No lock on tune
No locks on ecu
Can read and write to any vehicle
Can do standalone logging to SD card in Tactrix adapter
Laptop required to read/flash tunes and download log files
Cheapest system but little support, more for the DIY tuner or advanced user
Many tuners will not tune with Tactrix/Ecuflash as they cannot lock the tune to prevent copying
More info see here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62332


Tactrix Adapter will work with Techstream software for realtime logging if required
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35530


You need a Tactrix adapter for aprox $170 USD


www.tactrix.com




Some opensource tuners have written code or have access to flex fuel, overboost cut launch and Flat foot shift features



OFT – Open Flash Tablet
Mid priced system easier to use than Tactrix more support and has supplied tuned roms.
Open source tunes supplied can be edited and changed by end user
No locked tunes
No locked ECU
Tunes supplied with device included in price (free)
Marries to car by reading you original rom into device, original rom stored in device
Can be un-married by writing original rom/tune back to ecu
Can only flash vehicle its currently married to.
Can be uses a multi-gauge , display engine parameters real time
Some extra features on some roms such as launch control Flat foot shift.
Flex fuel support on limited roms overboost protection on some roms
Has alert/alarm function for engine parameters
You can self tune with OFT
The OFT can log and read and clear DTC on any BRZ/86
The OFT can also be converted to use on Mazda and BMW cars
Many tuners (other than OFT guys) will not tune with OFT as they cannot lock the tune to prevent copying.

Whole system can be onsold if unmarried

Laptop not required to log or flash tunes or read/clear DTC
Laptop required to update tunes in device and device firmware
More info see here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71157


You need the OFT flash device (includes tunes) for aprox $500 USD


www.openflashtablet.com

Brzedit
Mid-priced system
Uses Tactrix adapter to flash
Has very good logging software with dash dispalys
http://www.epifansoft.com/brzEdit-video-tutorials.html
Much more support and advanced logging than Ecuflash
Various software levels can be purchased.
Tunes are locked and encrypted and cannot be used by other systems
Ecu’s flashed with BrzEdit are locked until you flash back a “stock” tune to ecu.
Tunes supplied by tuners will generally be locked/encrypted so not editable by end user
Uses a different encryption/lock system than Ecutek so not interchangeable
No additional feature support that I am aware of, other tan Launch and Flat Foot Shift similar to OFT , suspect its same software patch as OFT
You can self tune with BRZedit
If comes in several user levels
The software is licienced to one Tactrix Adapter
The cheaper versions of BRZedit are also locked to one vehicle via the VIN
More expensive Tuner version for $450 allows flashing of multiple cars.

Laptop required to log and flash


Has some tuner support depends on country


You need
Brzedit software cheapest is $100 USD ( only allows flash no edit)
or the $150 version if you want edit ability
plus a Tactrix adapter to flash $170
so about $270 - $320 USD (no tunes supplied)

www.brzedit.com




Some brzedit tuners have written code or have access to flex fuel, overboost cut launch and Flat foot shift features





Ecutek
More expensive system especially if you purchase cable kit.
Has good support from many tuners and Ecutek support the tune system well.
Ecutek are only people I am aware of that offer an ecu “unbricking” service
Has advanced features including alteration to the actual ecu program to add many extra features not just launch or flat foot shift, 4 way map switching such as flex fuel , speed density tuning and other safety features for higher boost applications
The Launch and Flat Foot shift have many adjustable parameters and work better than the OFT or BrzEdit lc\ffs
Uses a different encryption/lock system than BRZedit so not interchangeable
ECU is locked once an Ecutek tune is flashed
Ecu can be unlocked by flashing back a “stock” rom
Flash licences not transferable only cable kit can be on sold

Tunes from tuners are generally locked and not viewable or editable

You can tune yourself with ecutek, but for full racerom feature access you will need to buy additional RaceRom extension.

Laptop required to log and flash.

Ecutek supply the tune system but they do not tune.
You need to go to an Ecutek tuner for a tune and flash licences or to buy cable kits.

The cable kit can be used to flash or log multiple cars but you need a ECU licience for each car you want to flash
The cable kit can log and clear/read DTC on a car without a Ecutek licience in ECU

If you buy a tune from a tuner it will have access to all racerom features like map switch, SD tuning ,custom maps etc.
If you self tune the basic proECU software only gives access to the basic RaceRom features like launch and flat foot shift.
You cannot access stuf like 4 map switching you can only access Map 1 tables and you dont get access to custom maps SD tunnig and a lot of other high end features. If you want that as a self tuner you need to buy the RaceRom extension pack for another $350. even with RaceRom extension you cannot access locked tunes, it just allows you to add in those features to a tune you make yourself.


You need
Ecutek cable kit $350 (if you want to flash tunes yourself)
Ecutek ECU licience (1 per car) $350

Tunes not supplied tunes start from 100-500 or so USD
If you want full access tune/modify all Race Rom Features add the Rece Rom extension for about $350


More info
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117520http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117520




www.ecutek.com


Other systems less popular

HKS Flash Editor

Aparantly locks ECU to that system
Know nothing about it
differnt lock system to brzedit or ecutek

Vivid Racing Genius
I know nothing about it other that what in thread below
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103014

UniChip
I know little about it
It a piggyback ECU system ie it requires wiring.
Piggyback systems work by intercepting some sensor inputs to the Original ECU and then processing them and presenting the modified sensor reading to the original ECU.
They are popular on cars where the original ECU is not easily flashable or has not been "cracked" to allow flashing
Piggy backs are limited in their adjustments compared to flash systems.
Unichip was more popular in early days with BRZ/86 before the flash systems had "cracked" ecu to allow flashing of the original ECU code and tables.

http://www.unichip.us/vehicle/vehicl...Subaru-BRZ-20L

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25211

[Kodename47]

Could you add this to the sticky at the top?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

[COO86L]

I believe also that EcuTek Master Tuners have more access and options for tuning with EcuTek. But if you have a good relationship with a MasterTuner company you may be able to go through them if you want tune your own vehicle.

[churchx]

BTW, IIRC there appeared another tuning system via MyGenius device, just for listing sake. But while OFT/Ecutek both have good and bad points, i don't see good in this. It's locked and priced like Ecutek, but isn't as widely used/known by tuning shops like Ecutek is, which justifies Ecutek price. Also not offset by openness of tunes and big community behind as for OFT. I guess it will still gains over stock, but i don't see how it may be competitive enough vs other offerings unless they aggressively drop price of that device+tune to OFT or below level.

[solidONE]

Is it possible for real time sensor data with the Tactrix/Ecuflash and can the BRZ edit software be used on tablets?

[Hostile_Kittens]

Unichip also has a system for the FT86.

www.unichip.com

You can get a Motec M150 through Full Blown which totally replaces the ECU.

[stevesnj]

Awesome! Should be a sticky

Also, is there a tuner that does single function changes? Like I want to change the voltage values on my throttle for quicker response. I don't want a full tune just to do one thing.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by steve99

Tune systems for FRS GT 86 BRZ
Quick summary of tune systems that are popular on this platform.
Tactrix/Ecuflash
Open source
No tunes supplied
No lock on tune
No locks on ecu
Can read and write to any vehicle
Can do standalone logging to SD card in Tactrix adapter
Laptop required to read/flash tunes and download log files
Cheapest system but little support, more for the DIY tuner or advanced user
Many tuners will not tune with Tactrix/Ecuflash as they cannot lock the tune to prevent copying
You need a Tactrix adapter for aprox $170 USD


www.tactrix.com

Originally Posted by stevesnj

Awesome! Should be a sticky

Also, is there a tuner that does single function changes? Like I want to change the voltage values on my throttle for quicker response. I don't want a full tune just to do one thing.

I think this should do it. Inexpensive too. You sure it works on the 86? Its not on their car list.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

I think this should do it. Inexpensive too. You sure it works on the 86? Its not on their car list.

yep works with 86\brz use it all the time see Tactrix link below, ita also used with brzedit, ecuflash is the free software it comes with. Just be aware you have to work out a lot of stuff yourself if you use this method

[steve99]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Is it possible for real time sensor data with the Tactrix/Ecuflash and can the BRZ edit software be used on tablets?

yes tactrix is cabable of reading data real time, not just logging to sd card. This is what brzedit software uses for logging\flashing.
Unfortunatly romraider logger ie tge opensource logger has not been updated to work with brz\86. So you would have to by the base brzedit software for 100 usd to log realtine with tactrix. It should run on a windows tablet but best ask the brzedit guys

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by steve99

yes tactrix is cabable of reading data real time, not just logging to sd card. This is what brzedit software uses for logging\flashing.
Unfortunatly romraider logger ie tge opensource logger has not been updated to work with brz\86. So you would have to by the base brzedit software for 100 usd to log realtine with tactrix. It should run on a windows tablet but best ask the brzedit guys

I was thinking more like logging and display on a tablet like the OFT.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by solidONE

I was thinking more like logging and display on a tablet like the OFT.

have a look here mate
http://www.epifansoft.com/brzEdit-video-tutorials.html

it looks like it can do "dashboard" type displays , should work on a modern windows tablet

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by steve99

have a look here mate
http://www.epifansoft.com/brzEdit-video-tutorials.html

it looks like it can do "dashboard" type displays , should work on a modern windows tablet

That's the ticket!

[freerunner]

After watching the videos on their site, some features of brzedit appear very powerful, esp. logging+vdyno.
I would love to give Brzedit a try, but according to @epifan in this post, saved files are not compatible with RomRaider any more. And after reading the thread, I still could not determine, if Brzedit generally locks the ecu.

Compatibility to open-source solutions is a must to prevent vendor lock-in. And I would like not to block the path of using an OFT if I eventually pick one up in the future.

Can I edit a rom with Brzedit (personal version) and flash it via Open Flash Tablet?