Turbo charging in Canada?

[hamish.frs]

Hey everyone.

I have been getting mixed answers about when it comes to turbo charging a frs in Vancouver, Canada. Some say that our fuel is not as good as our friends down in the states and will only be capable of making around 230whp. But i have other people saying i can still make 300whp (my goal) using canadian chevron 94 octane and still be reliable. Im hoping i could get some info on who is correct in this situation! I am not that knowledgeable in tuning. Thanks!

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by hamish.frs

Hey everyone.



I have been getting mixed answers about when it comes to turbo charging a frs in Vancouver, Canada. Some say that our fuel is not as good as our friends down in the states and will only be capable of making around 230whp. But i have other people saying i can still make 300whp (my goal) using canadian chevron 94 octane and still be reliable. Im hoping i could get some info on who is correct in this situation! I am not that knowledgeable in tuning. Thanks!

We only do 93 octane in the states and higher octane is fine just not lower. So unless that rating is +/- 3 octane I would think it's fine. I would be more worried about the compression ratio in the FA20.

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[8RZ]

Just make sure it's tuned for your octane.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by hamish.frs

Hey everyone.

I have been getting mixed answers about when it comes to turbo charging a frs in Vancouver, Canada. Some say that our fuel is not as good as our friends down in the states and will only be capable of making around 230whp. But i have other people saying i can still make 300whp (my goal) using canadian chevron 94 octane and still be reliable. Im hoping i could get some info on who is correct in this situation! I am not that knowledgeable in tuning. Thanks!

Define "reliable"

[DarkPira7e]

You could tune the car to run on rocket fuel, or on 87 octane - it won't be any more or less reliable if the tune is centered around that level of knock resistance. You're fine to turbo the car as long as the tune is done well!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

You could tune the car to run on rocket fuel, or on 87 octane - it won't be any more or less reliable if the tune is centered around that level of knock resistance. You're fine to turbo the car as long as the tune is done well!

He is referring to a common myth that the fuel sold in Canada is somehow inferior to that in the US. There are all sorts of "examples" posted on forums where people got gas on the other side of the border and their car miraculously and immediately gained hundreds of horsepower since it was so good!
The reality is that other than some very minor differences in additives and some slightly more restrictive Canadian allowances for things such as sulphur and benzene the fuel specs for each country are almost identical. Of course you can get bad gas here but the odds are no different than getting it in the US. The octane levels are identical in both countries so tuning for 93 here would be the exact same as in the US and the resulting HP would also be exactly the same.

[NARFALICIOUS]

I didn't think they even sold turbos up there in canadialand

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

I didn't think they even sold turbos up there in canadialand

Pretty sure that both the guys that have bought them are very happy with them.

[RToyo86]

There are a few turbo cars running around locally running on Petro 94. One runs meth injection for added protection since it lives on the track.

Petro uses ethanol which is good for turbo cars according to a installer/shop in the area.

Ultimately the quality of the gas in your area will determine what your tuner can do for power/reliability.

Anywhere between 250-300whp is attainable depending on setup, boost and support mods.

[kidgogeta]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

He is referring to a common myth that the fuel sold in Canada is somehow inferior to that in the US. There are all sorts of "examples" posted on forums where people got gas on the other side of the border and their car miraculously and immediately gained hundreds of horsepower since it was so good!
The reality is that other than some very minor differences in additives and some slightly more restrictive Canadian allowances for things such as sulphur and benzene the fuel specs for each country are almost identical. Of course you can get bad gas here but the odds are no different than getting it in the US. The octane levels are identical in both countries so tuning for 93 here would be the exact same as in the US and the resulting HP would also be exactly the same.

I had my car tuned on both had 260whp on 94 octane vs 275whp on WA fuel with a lot more torque throughout the power band.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by kidgogeta

I had my car tuned on both had 260whp on 94 octane vs 275whp on WA fuel with a lot more torque throughout the power band.

That is a 15hp change. You can get that by going back and dynoing the car under different weather conditions but the exact same fuel. How many times did you go back and forth and retune for each fuel?

[new2subaru]

Petro Canada 94 ratings vs others



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

[hamish.frs]

Of course once i boost the car im going to loose reliability. But i mean’t keeping the car somewhat reliable so i dont bend a connecting rod after only driving for 10,000kms.