BRZ BODY RUST! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

pastuch · 01-07-2013, 11:27 AM

I'm livid. The back half of my white BRZ premium is showing rust spotting. It's pretty bad on the trunk and above the rear wheels. I'm disgusted. I'm going to take it to Subaru this week when they hopefully get my new lights in. Both of my tail lights had really bad condensation.

My coworker had the same problem with his White WRX and warned me that Subaru paint was terrible. Subaru Canada has repainted almost 70% of his car and it's not even three years old. I'll try to take some photos of the rusting this week.

I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. We've had massive snow fall this year so there is a lot of salt on the roads. I still can't believe I'm seeing rust on a 2013 in less than 7 months of ownership. None of my other cars had this and I wash it at least once or twice per week. I also had it professionally opti-coated (2.0) right after I bought it.

BioRage · 01-07-2013, 11:31 AM

hmm, I never had issues with my 03 wrx... nor is there any rust on my 06 forester now... and I'm in Ontario.

Post some pics.. would like to see it, but there shouldn't be any rust on a brand new car.

shu5892001 · 01-07-2013, 11:44 AM

Since your car is white, maybe it's rail dust? Try to clay it out. Also it's not good to wash your car very often in the winter because it's the water that works with the salt that creates rust, not the frozen ice.

Snoopyalien24 · 01-07-2013, 11:44 AM

Pics please

Also, if you do get it re-painted or fixed, try a clear bra. Spend a little to save a lot!

pastuch · 01-07-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shu5892001

Since your car is white, maybe it's rail dust? Try to clay it out. Also it's not good to wash your car very often in the winter because it's the water that works with the salt that creates rust, not the frozen ice.

What is rail rust? I can rub most of it off right now but that's little comfort.

shu5892001 · 01-07-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pastuch

What is rail rust? I can rub most of it off right now but that's little comfort.

If you can get it off then it's rail dust.. Just clay it more often since you have a white car it's a lot more visible than other colors

Does it look like this?

chulooz · 01-07-2013, 11:55 AM

Did the paint get clay bar like it should have been before opticoat?

Like shu said, without pics it sounds like rail dust. Little shards of metal that impregnate themselves in the paint during transportation then later rust(especially ugly on white). A few different approaches to the issue(google), but letting the dealership handle paint issues is not recommended if you ask me.

Rayme · 01-07-2013, 11:56 AM

It could be worst..even seen mazda 3's ?

However I'd like to see pics also..it is rusting along the panel's edges or right in the middle? I'm driving through a lot of snow and salt also..keeping an eye out...

I had a 02 wrx and 6 winters later that car had no rust at all

chulooz · 01-07-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pastuch

What is rail rust? I can rub most of it off right now but that's little comfort.

Time to get serious with your 'professional' coater... Im sure you didnt pay him hundreds to have something like this going on UNDER the opticoat. Poor prep work is to blame for this oversight.

CircuitJerk · 01-07-2013, 12:16 PM

That's industrial fallout. Common and most visible on light colored paint.
Whether it's rail dust or not, it's likely iron particles that have started to rust. This isn't a manufacture problem.
IronX does wonders for that sort of contamination.

DaJo · 01-07-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chulooz

Time to get serious with your 'professional' coater... Im sure you didnt pay him hundreds to have something like this going on UNDER the opticoat. Poor prep work is to blame for this oversight.

Exactly my thought... Probably didn't deironize the car before the Opti-coat application.

whaap · 01-07-2013, 12:30 PM

When cars are transported on railroad cars they are subject to rail/brake dust settling on them which happens naturally on trains. Rail dust, being tiny particles or steel will turn to rust in our natural environment. It happens to all cars but it is most noticeable on white cars. Your dealership is very familiar with this happening and have an acid wash that can be used to remove all signs of rust. It is not harmful to the finish of your car. Let the dealership take care of it for you under warranty.

chenshuo · 01-07-2013, 12:33 PM

If it's like what Shu posted, then it's not a big deal, just clay then wax. My '10 Altima coupe develops those spotting and I just clay it then wax, then it's good for a year. It's not your car rusting.

MattZ28 · 01-07-2013, 04:55 PM

It's not the car's fault. Clay won't permanently fix it as clay will shear off the top layer of the iron particles. You need something like the Finish Kare decontamination system which will actually get all the crap out of the finish. Then, you need to keep it protected and clean it often to prevent it from coming back.

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pastuch Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 478 Thanks: 15 Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	BRZ BODY RUST! I'm livid. The back half of my white BRZ premium is showing rust spotting. It's pretty bad on the trunk and above the rear wheels. I'm disgusted. I'm going to take it to Subaru this week when they hopefully get my new lights in. Both of my tail lights had really bad condensation. My coworker had the same problem with his White WRX and warned me that Subaru paint was terrible. Subaru Canada has repainted almost 70% of his car and it's not even three years old. I'll try to take some photos of the rusting this week. I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. We've had massive snow fall this year so there is a lot of salt on the roads. I still can't believe I'm seeing rust on a 2013 in less than 7 months of ownership. None of my other cars had this and I wash it at least once or twice per week. I also had it professionally opti-coated (2.0) right after I bought it.

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shu5892001 Ontario's FT86 Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2016 Lexus GS-F Location: Toronto Posts: 685 Thanks: 261 Thanked 165 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since your car is white, maybe it's rail dust? Try to clay it out. Also it's not good to wash your car very often in the winter because it's the water that works with the salt that creates rust, not the frozen ice.

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chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did the paint get clay bar like it should have been before opticoat? Like shu said, without pics it sounds like rail dust. Little shards of metal that impregnate themselves in the paint during transportation then later rust(especially ugly on white). A few different approaches to the issue(google), but letting the dealership handle paint issues is not recommended if you ask me.

01-07-2013, 12:16 PM	#10
CircuitJerk Pull my finger... Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Silver Scion Slushbox Location: Illinois Posts: 996 Thanks: 476 Thanked 367 Times in 226 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's industrial fallout. Common and most visible on light colored paint. Whether it's rail dust or not, it's likely iron particles that have started to rust. This isn't a manufacture problem. IronX does wonders for that sort of contamination.

01-07-2013, 12:30 PM	#12
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When cars are transported on railroad cars they are subject to rail/brake dust settling on them which happens naturally on trains. Rail dust, being tiny particles or steel will turn to rust in our natural environment. It happens to all cars but it is most noticeable on white cars. Your dealership is very familiar with this happening and have an acid wash that can be used to remove all signs of rust. It is not harmful to the finish of your car. Let the dealership take care of it for you under warranty.

01-07-2013, 12:33 PM	#13
chenshuo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 1,260 Thanks: 259 Thanked 473 Times in 245 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it's like what Shu posted, then it's not a big deal, just clay then wax. My '10 Altima coupe develops those spotting and I just clay it then wax, then it's good for a year. It's not your car rusting.

01-07-2013, 04:55 PM	#14
MattZ28 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2005 S2000 Location: FL Posts: 30 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's not the car's fault. Clay won't permanently fix it as clay will shear off the top layer of the iron particles. You need something like the Finish Kare decontamination system which will actually get all the crap out of the finish. Then, you need to keep it protected and clean it often to prevent it from coming back.

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