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Old 07-18-2023, 06:14 PM   #1
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Why I’m Getting a BRZ

I’m new here, but I thought I’d tell my story. For years, I’ve been interested in finding something new that captured the spirit and, preferably, some of the looks of the Datsun 240Z. I had a 240Z in the 90’s but foolishly let it go.

I got interested in my quest, once again, when Nissan came out with latest iteration of the Z. I was never much interested in the ZX, the 350, the 370. For me, it was as if Nissan had lost its way with the Z. It was just too large and not at all appealing to my eyes. As an old girlfriend said when she saw a 370, “it looks like a fat turtle.”

Unfortunately, my investigation into the latest Z resulted in a “no go,” once again. I’m not crazy about the multicolored look, for most of the colors. And good luck trying to find a Sport, especially one in a true red. It’s still on an old chassis, and even though it has a 400HP turbo, the car is still heavy and whale-like looking. And the price? Ha! The dealership gouging is unbelievably outrageous, especially since Nissan production vs. demand is ridiculous, too.

Then, I decided to take a look at the latest BRZ/86. It sure reminds me of the 240Z, especially after driving it. Apparently, I’m not the only one.

“The Subaru BRZ Is the True Modern-Day Datsun 240Z”

https://jalopnik.com/subaru-brz-toyo...40z-1849710769

Best of all, I can get one in a nice red!

A slot for ordering a ‘23 at my favored dealer opened not long ago. Order placed, Ignition Red, MT, Limited, due in November.

As for looks, I think Subaru/ Toyota did a lot better job that Nissan. Here’s a Nissan Z,
280Z, BRZ comparison.

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Old 07-18-2023, 06:29 PM   #2
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Congratulations, this car is definetly likes of old school Mustangs and 240Z. By Nov 23, it might be 2023 model year. I got my 2023 in Sep of last year. May be look also in to special edition that would be revealed on 23rd.
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Congratulations, this car is definetly likes of old school Mustangs and 240Z. By Nov 23, it might be 2023 model year. I got my 2023 in Sep of last year. May be look also in to special edition that would be revealed on 23rd.
Thanks for the tips. I’m looking forward to November. I already have some local road trips with lots of curvy roads planned out, after break-in. Maybe even a trip to the Three Sisters.

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I once had a Mazda RX-7 so I kind of get what you are saying
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Congratulations, this car is definetly likes of old school Mustangs and 240Z. By Nov 23, it might be 2023 model year. I got my 2023 in Sep of last year. May be look also in to special edition that would be revealed on 23rd.
I'd argue its an opposite of the Mustang ideology
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I once had a Mazda RX-7 so I kind of get what you are saying
Yes! I, too, once had an RX-7. A brand new 1980. Another fun car to drive. I loved listening to that rotary spin. It was relatively trouble-free for me, too. Very close to a Z-like car but the original Z and the current BRZ look better to my eyes. Zoom, zoom!

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I'd argue its an opposite of the Mustang ideology
To current mustang, yes.

I glanced over article comparing to mustang from 1980s I think and it was exact dimensions, weight, made same power (but with V8).
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My RX-7 was a 1979, it had a 4 barrel Hitachi Carb! lol
Loved that car

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Yes! I, too, once had an RX-7. A brand new 1980. Another fun car to drive. I loved listening to that rotary spin. It was relatively trouble-free for me, too. Very close to a Z-like car but the original Z and the current BRZ look better to my eyes. Zoom, zoom!

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I had an RX-3 in the 240Z days. My first super fun car. It could outrun everything in the day except the Datsun. I liked the rotary enough to buy the RX-7 when it first came out. Before it got to the point that only doctors and lawyers could afford it. Great car. Almost as nice as an 86.
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I had an RX-3 in the 240Z days. My first super fun car. It could outrun everything in the day except the Datsun. I liked the rotary enough to buy the RX-7 when it first came out. Before it got to the point that only doctors and lawyers could afford it. Great car. Almost as nice as an 86.
The RX-3 was fun, too. One of my sisters had one. It was one of first, if not her first car. I’m setting in the passenger seat one day when the rotary suddenly dies. I pop the hood and check the oil. Nothing much of anything on the dipstick. I asked her when she last had the oil checked and received a puzzled look. My next question about when she last changed the oil also resulted in a similar response.

To Mazda’s credit, they actually replaced the motor at no charge to her. Your secret is safe with me, Sis.
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Funny thing about rotary engines... and a lesson about engineering: It is hard to identify what is most important. Rotary engines do everything better than piston engines... except the one salient shortcoming! They cannot properly do what piston rings do, vis-a-vis cylinder hone and oil film replenishment. Sure, less vibration, no reciprocating mass... yada yada... but they missed out on the little thing that was the most important.

Similar story with AC vs DC electricity wars in the time of Edison. DC is better in every way, except for distribution... which turns out to be the most important thing!!

... and in a few years when we are running on synthesized fuels... "Battery-powered cars, charged from a failing grid? What were those idiots thinking!" :-))

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Yes! I, too, once had an RX-7. A brand new 1980. Another fun car to drive. I loved listening to that rotary spin. It was relatively trouble-free for me, too. Here. Very close to a Z-like car but the original Z and the current BRZ look better to my eyes. Zoom, zoom!

And I also like the Mazda once upon a time I had it! Now I have a different model, but it was a great time and a great car!

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I had an RX-3 in the 240Z days. My first super fun car. It could outrun everything in the day except the Datsun. I liked the rotary enough to buy the RX-7 when it first came out. Before it got to the point that only doctors and lawyers could afford it. Great car. Almost as nice as an 86.
“…Before it got to the point that only doctors and lawyers could afford it…”

Ha! Yes, indeed. Mazda really had a sharp-looking machine by the ‘90’s. Unfortunately, it came at a price.

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