Dyno Day

[rookietopro_frs]

Had a blast with my first every dyno day in the FRS. Never had a car worth taking to get test, until now. Had to see how my car was doing bone stock before adding modifications ! Check it out if you have time.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8NiO-5_PUM"]Dyno Day w/ Scion FRS - YouTube[/ame]

[rookietopro_frs]

Hopefully someone can help me, I need to figure out what my next mods should be? Go some friends in Mustangs/Camaros, etc dissing my FRS ! I keep trying to remind them my car has so much potential

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

Originally Posted by rookietopro_frs

Hopefully someone can help me, I need to figure out what my next mods should be? Go some friends in Mustangs/Camaros, etc dissing my FRS ! I keep trying to remind them my car has so much potential

How much power are you looking to gain?

If you want enough to worry Mustangs and Camaros, then you need forced induction.

[Lynxis]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

How much power are you looking to gain?

If you want enough to worry Mustangs and Camaros, then you need forced induction.

If they've got V6's then just a header and a tune and they won't completely dust you in a straight line but if V8s then yeah, turbo or supercharger or get used to being made fun of.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by rookietopro_frs

Hopefully someone can help me, I need to figure out what my next mods should be? Go some friends in Mustangs/Camaros, etc dissing my FRS ! I keep trying to remind them my car has so much potential

Recently answered this one for another new owner. Here's the link to that thread and a moderately exhaustive & prioritized list.

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

No change in recommendation if those weren't your miles. Just drive it before making changes. Get a good feel for the stock car. Now if those were your miles, then decide...

Interior, exterior, performance or safety. Put all your effort into one and you'll get the best result. Here's the order I would go in for each category...

Exterior appearance...
Spacers
If the wheel gap doesn't bother you, and you want to keep the stock wheels & tires... spacers will get the wheels flush with the fenders and give the car a wider stance.

Springs, shocks or coilovers
If the wheel gap DOES bother you, then drop the car .8"-1.0" inches front to back on springs (Racecomp Yellow, Eibach Prokit, TRD, RS-R DownSus). If you want coilovers then KW, Tein, RS-R, Racecomp, Ohlins are all great options that will improve both ride and handling while helping you decrease the wheel gap. Don't drop more than 1.25" unless you want axle problems.

LED swap
Change the exterior LED bulbs from the factory ~4000k to pure white 5000k or icy 6000k all the way around. This is a cheap upgrade that really improves the look of the car at night (Diodedynamics is a great vendor.)

Taillights
I'd go tails before heads on lighting a <2016 car to get the biggest bang for buck.

Lip Kit
A simple "CS Style" lip kit (or others) improves the look of the car drastically and can be installed with just a jack.

Axleback or Catback exhaust
These don't improve the performance of the car really at all so they go under appearance. Sound and looks are 100% subjective so no recommendations here.

Interior appearance
LED lighting
As noted prior, this helps, lots... and it's cheap)

Replace or wrap interior plastics
Replace with upgraded OEM, buy Aftermarket fabric/leather, vinyl wrap or plasti-dip them interior bits to give your car a more cohesive/custom look.

Seat covers
Can go a mile to upgrade the look of your interior. SARD, Clazzio, WetOkole, Katzkin, there are tons of mfgs for as little as $300 and as much as $2000.

Shift knob / reverse lockout
A weighted shift knob works wonders to smooth out the shifting in this car. On the opposite end an ultra light shift knob improves feel if you prefer it that way. In either case a custom shift knob provides a nice finishing touch to an ugpraded interior.

Performance
Tools and a Jack
Camber bolts
Performance alignment
Brake Pads and fluid
Tires
ECU Tune (OFT/ECUTek)
Header
E85 upgrade
Shocks/Springs or Coilovers
Forced Induction (Turbo or Super)
Catch can(s)
Injectors & Fuel pump
Surge Tank
BBK


Safety
Helmet
Track days/HDPE/Driving school
Tires
Brake Pads & Fluid or BBK
Horn Upgrade
Harness bar
HANS

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by rookietopro_frs

Hopefully someone can help me, I need to figure out what my next mods should be? Go some friends in Mustangs/Camaros, etc dissing my FRS ! I keep trying to remind them my car has so much potential

Nobody sells thicker skin you'll have to DIY that upgrade.


imho if you're trying to stay with pony cars in a straight line go straight to forced induction, $5k for an off the shelf setup that'll keep pace with the V6's and stock I4's. If you're trying to hang with modded I4's or V8's get ready to double that investment and spend endless time chasing bugs, nothing is plug and play at the >300whp you will want.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8


If straight line is your jam but you don't want a pony car I say cut your losses now and find a nice C6 Covette.

[rookietopro_frs]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

How much power are you looking to gain?

If you want enough to worry Mustangs and Camaros, then you need forced induction.

Honestly would love to have around 350 WHP. Don't want to lose the FRS charactoristics & become just a straight line rocket. Handle is my top priority & the better I become as a driver the more power I'll add. Would love a turbo, but honestly not in the budget right now.

[rookietopro_frs]

Originally Posted by Lynxis

If they've got V6's then just a header and a tune and they won't completely dust you in a straight line but if V8s then yeah, turbo or supercharger or get used to being made fun of.

True, haha my friends really not stressing me. With that mentality I'll never be satisfied with the power gains. Always someone faster out there than me.

[rookietopro_frs]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Recently answered this one for another new owner. Here's the link to that thread and a moderately exhaustive & prioritized list.

WOW I LOVE THIS ! Reading it now, thanks. Knowledge is power

[rookietopro_frs]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Nobody sells thicker skin you'll have to DIY that upgrade.


imho if you're trying to stay with pony cars in a straight line go straight to forced induction, $5k for an off the shelf setup that'll keep pace with the V6's and stock I4's. If you're trying to hang with modded I4's or V8's get ready to double that investment and spend endless time chasing bugs, nothing is plug and play at the >300whp you will want.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81493
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8


If straight line is your jam but you don't want a pony car I say cut your losses now and find a nice C6 Covette.

Appreciate your suggestions, but I'm good ! Haha never been a guy who wanted to be the fastest in a straight line. I'll power over time, but no rush because like you said "if you're trying to hand with modded I4's or V8's get ready to double that investment and spend endless time chasing bugs" . Definitely want to keep this build progress fun.

[Scrappydoo]

Originally Posted by rookietopro_frs

WOW I LOVE THIS ! Reading it now, thanks. Knowledge is power

Knowledge up to 350 bhp and you're sorted...

[Lynxis]

Originally Posted by rookietopro_frs

Appreciate your suggestions, but I'm good ! Haha never been a guy who wanted to be the fastest in a straight line. I'll power over time, but no rush because like you said "if you're trying to hand with modded I4's or V8's get ready to double that investment and spend endless time chasing bugs" . Definitely want to keep this build progress fun.

Because we're so much lighter and have better aero design, you only need ~280 at the wheel to keep up with a V8 in a straight line. This is perfectly possible with any off the shelf bolt-on kit with 93 octane, basic breathing mods and a good tune. Tons of guys are making 280 at the wheels with these setups. E85 and you'll be pulling over 320whp although anyone making that power level inevitably breaks something.

[rookietopro_frs]

Originally Posted by Lynxis

Because we're so much lighter and have better aero design, you only need ~280 at the wheel to keep up with a V8 in a straight line. This is perfectly possible with any off the shelf bolt-on kit with 93 octane, basic breathing mods and a good tune. Tons of guys are making 280 at the wheels with these setups. E85 and you'll be pulling over 320whp although anyone making that power level inevitably breaks something.

I would love to run E85, where I live there are plenty of gas stations. Better yet flex fuel. I agree with everything you said.

[rookietopro_frs]

Hopefully I can get exhaust & a tune soon. So ready to start with the power mods.