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Old 05-20-2016, 11:35 AM   #1
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Pedal dance not working. *issue resolved*

'16 BRZ limited. Car was warmed up, on a flat empty parking lot, and I followed the procedure. You can see one of my attempts below.

I'd like to be able to do this for a novice autoX event coming up.

[ame]http://youtu.be/zKofpVGY58E[/ame]
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:41 AM   #2
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'16 BRZ limited. Car was warmed up, on a flat empty parking lot, and I followed the procedure. You can see one of my attempts below.

I'd like to be able to do this for a novice autoX event coming up.


Interesting, something is preventing the diagnostic mode from kicking on. You don't have any radiator or coolant mods do you?
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hmm..I dont know but if you buy OFT and you can do this by one touch lol
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Interesting, something is preventing the diagnostic mod from kicking on. You don't have any radiator or coolant mods do you?
It's a brand new unmolested limited.

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hmm..I dont know but if you buy OFT and you can do this by one touch lol
I'd rather not. I haven't even made my first payment yet.
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Try it with the handbrake already engaged then go from there? That's what I usually do. If it doesn't work I usually just spazz out with both of them and through trial and error it usually works.
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1. Start engine with hand and foot brake engaged
2. 2x foot brake & hold
3. 2x hand brake & hold
4. 2x foot brake
Works for me. Hand brake up on engine start.
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It's a brand new unmolested limited.



I'd rather not. I haven't even made my first payment yet.
Ok
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Try it with the handbrake already engaged then go from there? That's what I usually do. If it doesn't work I usually just spazz out with both of them and through trial and error it usually works.
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Works for me. Hand brake up on engine start.
1. Start engine with hand and foot brake engaged
2. 2x foot brake & hold
3. 2x hand brake & hold
4. 2x foot brake

Ok. So start with them engaged. Then what? Release both of them and start the process?

This is getting confusing.
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Ok
I just plan to save up and get some wheels. I may get the tablet down the line. I would just like to see if I can do this without any additional software or etc
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I just plan to save up and get some wheels. I may get the tablet down the line. I would just like to see if I can do this without any additional software or etc
No problem at all everyone has their own preference
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start with them engaged and just start the process. don't drop the handbrake at the start wait until the step where you have to
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start with them engaged and just start the process. don't drop the handbrake at the start wait until the step where you have to
This is not work either...hmm
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I don't remember the original post (and a quick search didn't find it...), but someone had posted up a sequence to turn off additional electronics in the car. The sequence is as follows:

- Turn on the car. The car must be FULLY warmed up. You must do the entire sequence within 30 seconds of starting the car.
- Pull the e-brake 3 times. Hold/lock the e-brake on the 3rd pull.
- Press the brake pedal 3 times. Hold it down the third time.
- Pull the hand brake 3 more times. Hold/lock the hand brake on the 3rd pull
- Press the brake pedal 2 more times.
- On the last press of the brake pedal, two yellow lights should have come on.

I purposely used staggered brake compounds to test whether the brake dance does anything; here are my conclusions.

- The pedal dance eliminates electronic brake force distribution.
- The pedal dance also eliminates the "panic brake" function.
- I tried trail braking mid-turn with the "normal" electronic aids off, but without the pedal dance. This resulted in a spin; the car literally locked up the rear brakes. My speculation is that the car recognized the fronts locking up, and put additional force on the rear brakes. The problem here, is that I had purposely put a much lower friction pad in the back, so it kept sending more and more brake pressure to the back, until it just locked. Once it locked, it stayed locked, even though I was not stepping on the brakes.
- I tried this again a few more times. Same result.
- I then tried again, but with a rear brake bias. This time, pressing on the brakes mid-turn or trail braking always resulted in the car straightening out and/or plowing.
- With the pedal dance, I can trail brake or brake in the middle of a turn for rotation just fine, regardless of pad setup.

Moral of the story: if you're driving on a track or at an autocross, do the pedal dance! (Remember, ALL aids will be off)

All testing was done on a closed course, at the "Balcony", courtesy of Willow Springs Raceway.



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From another post:
Just follow CSG Mike's post. If you're still having problems I'll film myself doing it later today and upload it.
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