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BDKane01 05-20-2016 11:35 AM

Pedal dance not working. *issue resolved*
 
'16 BRZ limited. Car was warmed up, on a flat empty parking lot, and I followed the procedure. You can see one of my attempts below.

I'd like to be able to do this for a novice autoX event coming up.

[ame]http://youtu.be/zKofpVGY58E[/ame]

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-20-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDKane01 (Post 2657723)
'16 BRZ limited. Car was warmed up, on a flat empty parking lot, and I followed the procedure. You can see one of my attempts below.

I'd like to be able to do this for a novice autoX event coming up.

http://youtu.be/zKofpVGY58E


Interesting, something is preventing the diagnostic mode from kicking on. You don't have any radiator or coolant mods do you?

zc06_kisstherain 05-20-2016 11:44 AM

hmm..I dont know but if you buy OFT and you can do this by one touch lol

BDKane01 05-20-2016 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2657725)
Interesting, something is preventing the diagnostic mod from kicking on. You don't have any radiator or coolant mods do you?

It's a brand new unmolested limited.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain (Post 2657729)
hmm..I dont know but if you buy OFT and you can do this by one touch lol

I'd rather not. I haven't even made my first payment yet.

FirstWinter 05-20-2016 12:09 PM

Try it with the handbrake already engaged then go from there? That's what I usually do. If it doesn't work I usually just spazz out with both of them :bellyroll: and through trial and error it usually works.

murdoc 05-20-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2499444)
1. Start engine with hand and foot brake engaged
2. 2x foot brake & hold
3. 2x hand brake & hold
4. 2x foot brake

Works for me. Hand brake up on engine start.

zc06_kisstherain 05-20-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDKane01 (Post 2657733)
It's a brand new unmolested limited.



I'd rather not. I haven't even made my first payment yet.

Ok

BDKane01 05-20-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstWinter (Post 2657749)
Try it with the handbrake already engaged then go from there? That's what I usually do. If it doesn't work I usually just spazz out with both of them :bellyroll: and through trial and error it usually works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by murdoc (Post 2657755)
Works for me. Hand brake up on engine start.

1. Start engine with hand and foot brake engaged
2. 2x foot brake & hold
3. 2x hand brake & hold
4. 2x foot brake

Ok. So start with them engaged. Then what? Release both of them and start the process?

This is getting confusing.

BDKane01 05-20-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain (Post 2657759)
Ok

I just plan to save up and get some wheels. I may get the tablet down the line. I would just like to see if I can do this without any additional software or etc

zc06_kisstherain 05-20-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDKane01 (Post 2657764)
I just plan to save up and get some wheels. I may get the tablet down the line. I would just like to see if I can do this without any additional software or etc

No problem at all everyone has their own preference

FirstWinter 05-20-2016 12:47 PM

start with them engaged and just start the process. don't drop the handbrake at the start wait until the step where you have to

BDKane01 05-20-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstWinter (Post 2657780)
start with them engaged and just start the process. don't drop the handbrake at the start wait until the step where you have to

This is not work either...hmm

FirstWinter 05-20-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 640389)
I don't remember the original post (and a quick search didn't find it...), but someone had posted up a sequence to turn off additional electronics in the car. The sequence is as follows:

- Turn on the car. The car must be FULLY warmed up. You must do the entire sequence within 30 seconds of starting the car.
- Pull the e-brake 3 times. Hold/lock the e-brake on the 3rd pull.
- Press the brake pedal 3 times. Hold it down the third time.
- Pull the hand brake 3 more times. Hold/lock the hand brake on the 3rd pull
- Press the brake pedal 2 more times.
- On the last press of the brake pedal, two yellow lights should have come on.

I purposely used staggered brake compounds to test whether the brake dance does anything; here are my conclusions.

- The pedal dance eliminates electronic brake force distribution.
- The pedal dance also eliminates the "panic brake" function.
- I tried trail braking mid-turn with the "normal" electronic aids off, but without the pedal dance. This resulted in a spin; the car literally locked up the rear brakes. My speculation is that the car recognized the fronts locking up, and put additional force on the rear brakes. The problem here, is that I had purposely put a much lower friction pad in the back, so it kept sending more and more brake pressure to the back, until it just locked. Once it locked, it stayed locked, even though I was not stepping on the brakes.
- I tried this again a few more times. Same result.
- I then tried again, but with a rear brake bias. This time, pressing on the brakes mid-turn or trail braking always resulted in the car straightening out and/or plowing.
- With the pedal dance, I can trail brake or brake in the middle of a turn for rotation just fine, regardless of pad setup.

Moral of the story: if you're driving on a track or at an autocross, do the pedal dance! (Remember, ALL aids will be off)

All testing was done on a closed course, at the "Balcony", courtesy of Willow Springs Raceway.



*edit*

From another post:

Just follow CSG Mike's post. If you're still having problems I'll film myself doing it later today and upload it.

2superblus 05-20-2016 01:50 PM

Or fix it with this.

http://www.beastronix.com/


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