weird issue at high speeds after OFT tune - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dejxx · 05-13-2014, 01:37 PM

Before i start, i don't think this is a problem... and im 100% happy with OFT... but its something.
Lets get to the issue. I live in Argentina, some highways here don't really have a speed limit... and they are freaking deserted in some places. So i was traveling, and decided to do a top speed test, since ive never done one after i did my OFT flash.

I was in 6th gear, and just started to go, as easy as possible... when i hit 180km/h at around 4ishk rpm, the car kinda stopped accelerating... like for an entire second. This didnt happened before the tune... (i did a top speed test before the tune, some months ago).

Tried to reproduce this a couple of times... all the times it happened. Tried it in 5th gear, nothing happend.

Any opinions on what could be the source of this?

Before anyone gets mad at me for the speed... its a veryyyyyy long straight, with lots of space, and not a freaking soul... otherwise i don't go this fast... =)

phrosty · 05-13-2014, 02:17 PM

Could you have lost traction? This has happened to me before.

wparsons · 05-13-2014, 02:17 PM

Try logging what is happening when you experience this, especially since it's repeatable.

Garrett@Openflash · 05-13-2014, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons

Try logging what is happening when you experience this, especially since it's repeatable.

+1, also are there any codes associated with this issue? you can send your logs to sales@vishnutuning for feedback.

brn12345 · 05-14-2014, 03:49 AM

Since not many people take their cars up to top speed the experiences are far and between. Here is what I have experienced in top speed runs.

1. In some cases when I was running pump gas (I didn't have the logger on during the times it happened) the car while accelerating from anywhere between 150km/h and 240km/h would like you mentioned hit a wall but in my case it is brief (1-2 seconds) and then the car continues to accelerate. Having said this, I have not had this issue occur again since moving to 100octane fuel.

2. The stock mapping has a top speed limiter that kicks in at 221 km/h and I had posted about this before (see link below)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58835

3. Friends of mine with ECUtek have had issues with top speed that are a bit different. In their case the car hits a wall at 210 km/h every time without fail.

dejxx · 05-14-2014, 12:21 PM

mmmm thanks all for the answers... Ill try to take a log of the issue and post it here as soon as possible.

MstrSHAKE · 07-14-2014, 07:00 PM

Dont mean to bump an old thread, but I just ran into this issue as well on my stage 1 flash. was at 6th Gear 99mph and then just hit a wall like fuel cut? Odd. Would not happen in 5th or 4th gear like the OP.

Malt · 07-14-2014, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MstrSHAKE

Dont mean to bump an old thread, but I just ran into this issue as well on my stage 1 flash. was at 6th Gear 99mph and then just hit a wall like fuel cut? Odd. Would not happen in 5th or 4th gear like the OP.

Automatic or manual transmission?

steve99 · 07-14-2014, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MstrSHAKE

Dont mean to bump an old thread, but I just ran into this issue as well on my stage 1 flash. was at 6th Gear 99mph and then just hit a wall like fuel cut? Odd. Would not happen in 5th or 4th gear like the OP.

Plug in your OFT and log the issue

AFR
IAM
LOAD
THROTTLE position
SPEED
LTFT
MAF V

etc

Check for any stored DTC/CEL codes

MstrSHAKE · 07-14-2014, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt

Automatic or manual transmission?

MT

MstrSHAKE · 07-14-2014, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99

Plug in your OFT and log the issue

AFR
IAM
LOAD
THROTTLE position
SPEED
LTFT
MAF V

etc

Check for any stored DTC/CEL codes

Will do when I get the chance!

Chimera · 07-14-2014, 10:16 PM

interesting.. I'm running stg1 on B01c, I haven't had many opportunities to drive over 100mph, however my car sails right past to about 110 with ease, 110 seems to be its comfortable speed right around 4k rpm in 6th. tbh I have never tried to go above 110.

slofrs · 07-21-2014, 03:50 PM

it's pulling timing out in that little spot for some reason, i've seen it drop like 20* of timing in that spot.

troek · 07-22-2014, 12:39 AM

i would check all the speed limit tables in the tune in rom raider, just to be sure.

05-13-2014, 02:17 PM	#2
phrosty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Seattle Posts: 806 Thanks: 202 Thanked 320 Times in 199 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Could you have lost traction? This has happened to me before. __________________ 2013 Whiteout 6AT FR-S \| Perrin Inlet Tube + 2.75" CAI \| OpenFlash Header \| P&L Catback \| 4.88 Final Drive \| Dialed in OFT 2.0x Stage 2 E85 \| 18x8 Enkei Raijin + 225/40 Michelin Pilot Super Sport \| 17x7 Stock + 215/45 Michelin X-Ice Xi-2

05-14-2014, 03:49 AM	#5
brn12345 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: Bahrain Posts: 254 Thanks: 101 Thanked 137 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since not many people take their cars up to top speed the experiences are far and between. Here is what I have experienced in top speed runs. 1. In some cases when I was running pump gas (I didn't have the logger on during the times it happened) the car while accelerating from anywhere between 150km/h and 240km/h would like you mentioned hit a wall but in my case it is brief (1-2 seconds) and then the car continues to accelerate. Having said this, I have not had this issue occur again since moving to 100octane fuel. 2. The stock mapping has a top speed limiter that kicks in at 221 km/h and I had posted about this before (see link below) http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58835 3. Friends of mine with ECUtek have had issues with top speed that are a bit different. In their case the car hits a wall at 210 km/h every time without fail. __________________ 2013 Lightning Red - 6MT Perrin Inlet Hose ~ TRD Panel Air Filter ~ OEM Modified Snorkel ~ Revolution 4-2-1 EL Header ~ HKS Resonated Front Pipe ~ BRZedit self tune ~ KW Clubsport Coilovers ~ AP Racing Big Brake 4 Piston ~ Whiteline Front Endlinks ~ Perrin Rear Endlinks ~ WedsSport TC105N 17x8 42+ ~Dunlop Direzza II Star Spec 225/45/17 ~ STI Trunk Lid Spoiler

07-14-2014, 10:16 PM	#12
Chimera Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: FRS Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,181 Thanks: 575 Thanked 291 Times in 216 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	interesting.. I'm running stg1 on B01c, I haven't had many opportunities to drive over 100mph, however my car sails right past to about 110 with ease, 110 seems to be its comfortable speed right around 4k rpm in 6th. tbh I have never tried to go above 110. __________________ Car Journal: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1513783

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MstrSHAKE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 SWP BRZ Location: Miami, FL Posts: 216 Thanks: 113 Thanked 131 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dont mean to bump an old thread, but I just ran into this issue as well on my stage 1 flash. was at 6th Gear 99mph and then just hit a wall like fuel cut? Odd. Would not happen in 5th or 4th gear like the OP.

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