I don't know about the rest of you, but my tail end slides out fine even with stickier tires.. but that's just me. I must drive my car like I stole it :/
Fighting my car to keep the tail end from sliding out too much on this cold day: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbgVYUIC2z4"]SCCA SOLO EVENT 2 2013 FR-S - YouTube[/ame]
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Originally Posted by Shinji2787
I noticed OP mentioned he used to own a ae86, but now currently drives a '01 s2k. I currently own a '85 corolla gt-s and a MY06 S2K and between the two cars I could also make the argument that the corolla "cannot get the rear out"... That is if I'm relying on using only the gas pedal to swing out the rear with extra power. I've noticed over the past 5-6 years of driving both my old sprinter and the s2k that the S2K is considerably easier to do a power slide with (read: power + gas pedal = rear begins to slide mid-turn), but not as easy to get the corolla's rear swinging without proper steering input + speed + braking (whatever combo is required for the upcoming turn/drift). I get the feeling that the BRZ/FRS is similar to the corolla; enter a little hotter, little later breaking, little more gradual weight shift, little more precision steering, foot on gas a little earlier at higher revs. I believe this neat guy name Tsuchiya once mentioned everyone is moving to higher powered cars because they're easier to initiate a drift and maintain it... (insert sarcasm)
While I haven't had the opportunity to test drive a brz/frs (L.A. subie dealers are so anal with their 3-5k markups and not letting people test drive  .. and FRS are getting sold as soon as they hit the bloody dealers!!) it seems like the driver's inputs are much more crucial for this car compared to just using the gas pedal to turn...
Though I would like to comment that manual BRZ/FRS will be easier to turn with gas pedal due to shorter gearing ratios, though I am inclined to believe that difference is rather negligible.
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