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Originally Posted by RedLeader

the only real upside I see with E85 is that if you decide you DON'T want it anymore, you just stop putting it in. Its more difficult to de-mod a car for whatever reason than it is to switch fuel types. The problem with it (and that "pay to play" line is a pile of shit and everyone knows it) is that its not a one-time power adder like a turbo, or cams and pistons, or a tune, its an constantly ongoing drain. Sure, with a turbo the gains from E85 are potentially greater but I'd bet that with an aggressive turbo, E85, maybe some low comp pistons and even more boost and timing advance, you're getting really close to the car as a daily driver being not only impractical but also nearly unaffordable.
I guess my opinion of E85 as a permanent fuel source for my car is tainted by the fact that I drive my car everywhere, everyday cuz its my only car. paying 50-70% more per mile after I finally go S/C (or maybe twin scroll turbo, I'm contemplating that as well) AND having to find E85 stations in Tucson and wherever else my job takes me, all add up to it not being a feasible solution. I kinda view E85 right up there with NO2...since each car is an extension of its owner/builder, doing something like an E85 swap or hooking up a NO2 tank, to me is lazy, and that laziness is reflected in the build and in the owner/builder. But then I don't see cars in terms of numbers like peak horsepower, torque, lateral g's, 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times..to me its more about the experience and joy of driving, not trying to hit a number goal.

But that's just me, rant over. I think I got a LITTLE carried away. Sleep time.

I assume you've never used e85?