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Old 09-13-2011, 08:27 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by 70NYD View Post
LOL there are more unemployed people in the USA than there are people in TOTAL in australia..
american SALARY average gets pushed up significantly by certain overpaid proffesions. show me a bell chart with their earnings, or at least tell me the standard deviation for the salaries in the states for the white collar.. its easy to put a spin on anything with simple averages, in reality averages mean shit compared to the whole spread
3 OEM manufacturers.. and how many cars are actually designed here? and how many cars are actually assambled here? or made here? if there were plants here from ~10 manufacturers, that would be impressive.. this isnt europe mate, where it doesnt matter where what factory is, its all still on the same continent, and you can still physically drive to the town where the factory is from anywhere else in europe.. this is a island.. if it isnt made here, it has to be shipped here.. and there is your problem.

Your stating information out of context.
USA have 250+ Million people, Australia has 21~23 Million people.

10:1 ratio.



Australia's Unemployment rate of Under 5% is Exaggerated, because part time employment is accounted for. Example: if Joe Smith worked 2 hours last week for his $55~60 dollar paycheck, he is considered employed.

Go to macrobusiness.com.au, and update yourself with current economy down in Australia.


I worked in the states for 2 years, which meant I lived there too. My coleagues of the same experience as I, earned approximately the same as I did.
The difference?
Cost of living there is dramatically cheaper, except for medical expenses and general services.

I drove a Subaru Impreza here in Oz, and over there (states), my coleagues drove Porsche Boxters, Mustangs, IS250s, WRXs etc of the same salary I was earning. Why?.... because they are cheap there.
If you earned 80K AUD living in Oz, you are doing "OK".
In the States, you earn 80K, you are more than comfortable and WELL OFF.

Of course you should know why they are cheap over there.





Regarding OEMs in Australia.
WTH are you mentioning Germany?
Germany is a leading nation for Automotive, with over 100 years of designing, developing autmotives.
Australia has about 20-25 years of development, Ford and Holden have more years under their belt, but in terms of design from ground up. Maybe 25 years or so...

And Germany has 2-3 times more population, have about 10 surrounding countries which they can "truck" deliver cars, and these countries account for about more than 200 million people combined... hence 10 times more market than Australia.

I dont understand what is your point?

Of course Australia isnt in the same league as Germany.


No one said they are.
What I can tell you is, Australia has automotive expertise that is appreciated and respected by OEMs from other Nations, including Germany, Japan and USA.

You'd be shocked on how Australia Automotive R&D/Engineering actually makes it to a global scale.

And when the time comes that Australian Manufacturing collapse, the Automotive Knowledge amongst the local experts and companies will more likely be transferred to nearest manufacturing giant... China, Thailand. And most of the R&D staff will relocate to their mother OEMs in USA, Japan, Germany etc.


How many cars are designed in Oz.
From top of my head.
- Camry/Aurion (are co-designed globally)
- Ford Territory
- Ford Falcon and its variants
- Holden Commodore
- Holden Cruze (are co-designed globally)
- Magna (Finish now, but was co-designed globally)
- Chevrolet Camaro (had design/evaluation input from Holden local)
- Corolla (Previous models, had local engineers worked on it)
- Holden/Ford/Toyota also have employees from their R&D/Engineering who Go and Live overseas and work for their "mother" OEMs on various projects.

And in the future, there's about 3-4 vehicles that have potential to be co-designed by Australians, due to their popularity here.

So for a Nation with 20 Million people, Australia isnt as shabby as you think they are. Knowledge here is on a Global scale.

Last edited by AIRMAX; 09-13-2011 at 08:39 PM.
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