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Originally Posted by NESW20
was it you that hates the k20z3? haha, i've had this discussion before with someone on here. if you'll look at the torque curve for the k20z3, it's pretty darn flat. i've driven a few of the newer Si's, and i've never had a situation where 140 ft lbs across most of the rev range has been a problem. and yes, i know what torque is. my MR2 makes 250+ ft lbs to the wheels. 
k20z3 dyno graph pulled from google
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Maybe, but the butt dyno tells me the Si in stock form is gutless. I was hellbent on getting one, got the financing done, found the one I wanted in stock online, went to test drive it and it just felt like a dog. Tried city, highway, on/off ramps and it felt like I was driving a Saturn (engine wise, the fit and finish was obviously much better). I couldn't wait to get out of that car when we got back. I hope the FR doesn't feel so gutless. It may have similar stats when its all said and done but I better be able to feel the car move.