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Originally Posted by Skyhound
Worst advice ever, this is the reason so many FR-S's are getting totaled.
You really should be leaving both VSC and TCS ON when you're on public roads. ESPECIALLY if this is your first RWD car. Go to an empty parking lot and play around with the different settings, leave the wheel spin on the track dude.
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<pinches bridge of nose, in abject frustration> Okay, fellows... we need to talk.
First of all, cars have existed for years and years and years putting power to the rear-wheels, all without the benefit of electronic nannies. Did they wreck? Yes... but no more and no less than cars these days. Would you believe I've driven a NB Miata (daily driven), 96 Mustang Cobra, and most dramatically a 93 RX7 in the rain and the snow... and never wrecked, spun out, nor lost control in any fashion? And my god, compared to any one of those vehicles (especially the RX7), the FR-S is a virtual GOD of grip and stability. Truthfully, I've learned to read "how easy it is to get the rear end out on this car" as "I have very little driving experience" or "I've never driven a real sports car in my life!"
Let me say again: years of driving much more powerful, less well-suspended, RWD cars, with no DSC or TCS... and I never wrecked. If I can do it, you can too; it's called "learning to drive responsibly".
As for "all these FR-S's being totaled"... I'd wager, per capita, there's more Corollas, Camry's... hell, pick any typical daily driver car... being wrecked than the FR-S. It only seems like there's a lot being wrecked because A) there's very few on the road, B) every single one that gets wrecked finds its way on here, and C) this car community has a confirmation bias about cheap, RWD coupes being marketed under the Scion name (i.e. we expect lots to be wrecked due to young hooligans trying to drift every corner). Most of the ones I've seen wrecked were NOT due to that, but rather the fault of someone else. In fact, I can only think of two accidents due to driver fault; in one of the cases the driver admitted his mistake, and in both of them the cars were hardly "totaled".