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Old 08-16-2012, 01:10 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz View Post
Ahh, yeah I just felt there was less bodyroll from the BRZ than the civic in the curves, at least from what I could see from the video
i know. im saying that it is largely due to the civic having stickier tires. well that and overall design...but largely the tires
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Originally Posted by rice_classic View Post
Every track test is meaningless unless the most important thing on the cars is equal. As long as the cars have different tires.... overall lap time tests are a waste of time.

Put the Piloti Sports on the BRZ, retest. Also I hate seeing FWD drive cars on road courses with what is a factory suspension. The reason is that all OEM suspension setups on FWD cars are designed for safety which = Massive Understeer. Transversely, with most RWD setups, even those that are understeery like the BRZ, can still utilize the throttle to overcome it. So take the Civic and stiffen the rear, adjust the front toe and retest.

I understand the need to test "stock for stock" but the OEM's often make REALLY stupid decisions about street-going cars; AKA: understeery-setups for safety, Prius tires on a sports car etc etc etc. So these tests don't really compare the "platform" all that well.
thats a totally arbitrary mindset. i could just as easily say that track tests are meaningless unless power is the same or weight is the same. throwing in those tires at that price is an advantage for the civic, plain and simple. the only thing that i think should be used to level the playing field is dollars.
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