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Originally Posted by foshjowler
I am very familiar with Pallotta, he was local here when I was starting out. I've seen him put seconds on national trophy winners many times. If you're fighting to be the top dog, then yes, there being a faster car rules you out, but what's new about that? In any form of racing for that matter. Not every class can be STS. Most people who are and have been fighting at the pointy end have had to jump cars/classes before.
This would be a very predictable move by the SCCA. Bury a new car for a couple of years, change it's class to where it probably belongs long term. They've done it time and time again. I was in here stating this a year+ ago. What is proposed here will still be a very popular class, and that's what they're most concerned about that. I really can't imagine the STAC hasn't considered that the proposal will upset many people, but it's also clear that many people want this/similar change. To have multiple cars +/- a second of each other, I view as successful classing. Certainly better than things currently stand in STR and STX, which are both one horse races.
So far, it's only been speculation that the 2nd gen will dominate, and no actual information showing that it will, and if it does, that it will ruin the class. It will certainly change the landscape, but again, not every class can be STS.
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lol, what?
The second gen has a lower CoG, 25-50 pounds more overall weight (down low though) and 40+ more horsepower. How in the heck would it *not* be dominant?
I was ~5 tenths faster in my BRZ than Jon Caserta in his STX car on a 66 second course recently. I was 1.3 seconds faster than Jon at a different local on a 55 second course... He's also beaten me raw time wise, but never by more than a tenth or two and one was due to conditions and the other I just drove like crap.
FWIW my car is effectively full prep and while I've pulled back from national autocross this year, I'm still doing plenty of events and getting lots of seat time and development time. Competing with Jon and sharing data has certainly helped my development of the car on top of having owned a first gen in STX ages ago.
I ordered an OS Giken so I'd argue I'll be "full prep" in a week or two after Shaftworks works their magic on the diff setup. Doing seats will save a few pounds and make the car worse to live with so I don't see a point. The only other thing left is making the Karcepts rear bar work on a second gen BRZ and I've been talking to Brian about that too and we have plans.
The right answer is still, and always has been, to move the ND to its own class. but instead we have STAC members that are flaunting their "data" that shows a first gen twin is faster than a second gen twin.
