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Old 08-03-2022, 11:40 AM   #365
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Originally Posted by DocWalt View Post
I trust Subaru/Toyota designed it properly to not starve and die on track. The first gen was generally "fine" with the usage most second gens have seen. A few people have had them blow up just street driving.

From an engineering point of view, the RTV in the pickup is a *massive* red flag, it wasn't designed to deal with that restriction to flow. There's safety margin built in, especially since the 2nd gen pickup tube is so much better than the first gen's, but it can't handle one side of the box (and 1/4 of each other side) being blocked.

As I said above, they didn't fail on the engineering aspect, they sure did fail on the assembly.

Do I trust Subaru to make it right? Yes. Clearly we can't trust Toyota though...
There were around 50 failures recorded for the 13s. All due to oil starvation with silicone blockage the main culprit. Then there was the whole recall debacle with at least 100 more failures. This isn't a new issue to them. The new pickup is likely a result of those two issues.

The blocked passage is indeed obvious and in your face. That does not automatically make it the whole issue.
We don't know what Subaru is doing about warranty at this point. AGAIN not enough data to say. They may go the same route as Toyota and blame "abuse".

There are really two different subjects here. One is the fact that there is an obvious problem with the oil system of the engine. The other is how they are reacting to that issue for warranty.
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