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Originally Posted by 8inchAzN
IF you shift the goal posts to a Minivan that out accelerates the BRZ that costs the same as a BRZ - and god forbid if that did exist, you will shift the goal post even further by claiming it won't handle as well as the BRZ- then you are correct. There is no Minivan that costs the same as a BRZ that can out accelerate it.
We are free to bring any Minivan that is or was available for purchase because that was what the discussion was, price was never part of the discussion.
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I'm not "shifting the goal posts." I'm pointing out that you are making unreasonable comparisons. Price is ALWAYS an underlying part of the comparison. So is the idea that we are obviously excluding special "crazy fast" edition vehicles. Otherwise there wouldn't be a point to any of these comparisons. Any reasonable discussion has reasonable limits. If you want to take things to the extreme just to validate your argument, that's fine, but you're turning the conversation into something other than what was intended.
One of your comparisons was a vehicle that doesn't exist.
The other was a vehicle with a starting price that, in today's money, was more than TWICE that of the most expensive Toyota Sienna you can buy.
It's also not *really* a minivan, but I'll let that one slide since it's commonly referred to as one by people who think sliding doors are what make minivans uncool.