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Originally Posted by ssmtsx
Seeing as i am a dealership employee..I would know. I can post an invoice of an FR-S if you would like. You will see that there is no holdback listed.
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Going back to the Edmunds description of holdback, I fail to see what good it is to look at the invoice. Unless you own the dealership, or take care of all the transactions with Toyota, why would it necessarily be your business to know dealer cost? Even if that is your position, as stated in the Edmunds piece, there are reasons why people in such positions may wish to obscure actual dealer cost.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/dealer-holdback/
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And yes TMS employees do get better pricing than invoice (dealer cost)
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I still consider it preposterous to think any self-respecting dealership owner would buy cars from Toyota at a cost above where it sells to employees. Employees are buying one car, while dealerships are buying possibly hundreds. From a volume standpoint, which is Toyota's interest, it makes no sense.