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Old 05-03-2018, 10:17 AM   #287
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Went back and found the laundry list of stuff you bolted on the car. Impressive and expensive. However, what I do not see is the before and after data to show that you actually accomplished anything with all that expense. That is where most people dive into denial. I am sure that you have the data from before and after you bolted each part on but just forgot to post it.

As to envious, not so much. Betty Crocker cake from a mix is not my style no matter how much frosting and sparkles it has. I like stuff to be a bit more original and require some skills from the builder. Not saying you or your installer don't have mad skills, but all I see is a catalog of parts that go on with a wrench and a CC.

As to the denial bit? Tossing huge amounts of $$$ at any car project is pretty stupid when looked at objectively. More so when you don't have before and after data to show that it made a difference as is the case with the vast majority of people who bolt thousands of dollars of parts on their car based on fancy add copy. The stuff we buy from the best aftermarket suppliers would not qualify as more than prototypes from an OEM vendor; not near enough development and validation. The end result is not worth 50 cents on the dollar if you are lucky. There is nothing wrong with denial, it is what allows us to do the next dumb but fun car project that we dream up.
Normally you and I are on the same page but I have to disagree with much of this.


Ho made no claims of any sort that he needs to justify our quantify. His goal as stated was to have a car that could pass easier and was a bit tighter. That is what he built. He was not chasing numbers or trying to shave a hundredth of a second off a track time. If he was claiming 400Hp, a 26% increase in acceleration or a spectacular trap time on the strip then sure he needs to have some numbers. He made no such statements.


Don't most car parts bolt on? Just because they are not engine swaps does not mean they are not effective. Not sure how the end result depends on who did the work either. It isn't like he dropped his car off at some shop and said "here is a blank cheque do whatever you want to make it cool". He had goals, researched what he wanted and had it installed. There are thousands of speed shops that do this work for people everyday. It has gone on since the first cars rolled off the lines. Not everybody has the tools, space and time to do all the work themselves.


Yep, tossing huge $$$ into a car project looks silly. But so does spending money on any hobby. I have a buddy that spends about $5K a year on his lawn. Not something I would do but it makes him happy.


Comparing any modification up to and including a full engine swap to your project is like holding a drive to the grocery store up against a Mars mission. To say that unless you do the same it isn't valid or useful work is just plain wrong. Your project transcends the terms modification by a massive margin and is as much an art form as it is a car build. I have done some extensive work over the years but something like that is not a project I would even dream of. Looking down on people because they do not tackle that level of a job is not a realistic outlook.
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