[Jonsey]

I will copy in the review I did on the FB track group of my experiences with it and comments from Mike @ Moto-East in reply.


Been waiting to update this post until I had it for several months and a number of track days with it to give an honest assessment. Some of the issues may not be actual issues but are thoughts I have had and hope others can share their thoughts on. Overall- excellent product and highly recommended for serious track folks wanting to run e85.

Let's start with the bad because that is what most of us really care about. First, it didn't come with instructions and while not overly complicated to figure out, it was not super easy for someone working with fuel system components for the first time. It also didn't help that one of the fuel lines had the wrong fitting on it, which made figuring out which line went where a bit more difficult. However, the guys were quick to respond to questions and helped me figure it out in no time.

Second, I needed to do a small amount of trimming on the base to get the tank to sit down all the way in it.

Third, the surge tank is in the engine compartment so it will heat up as the engine compartment does and warm the fuel. My hood is vented so should help this, but it may or may not cause some power loss from warmer fuel. The counter point is you don't have another fuel system component inside the cabin or in the trunk that then forces you to build a shield between the trunk and the passenger cabin to be properly safe.

Fourth, you have a fuel system component sitting right next to the battery. Any fuel leak can be catastrophic so I am not sure if this is truly a higher risk, but I have a fire suppression system installed and have a nozzle pointed right at the surge tank.

Finally, the fuel pump in the surge tank is pretty noisy. Doesn't bother me since this is mainly a track car, but it's certainly noticeable.

On to the good, this product does exactly what it is intended to do and does it very well. I previously couldn't get below 7/8 of a tank on e85 without fuel starving on a couple of high g left handed sweepers, which means I couldn't do a fuel session without issue. I have run the tank down to 1/4 tank now without any issues, which is awesome. Being able to run the car with a header and e85 has made tracking substantially more fun and dropped several seconds off my lap times. Overall, I am very pleased with the product and the purchase and would highly recommend it for people serious about running e85 on the track. This is a very well thought out and well built system.


Comments from Mike:

Thanks for the honest feedback Jason. We really value the feedback for this kind of stuff. The location has compromises for sure, though fortunately they are minor compared to the alternative of having a useless track car on e85 or the cost of the fuel cell. We couldn't make it a full session on e85 before running out of fuel on tight turns with the stock system. The noise is definitely there, not much to be done about that. A battery fire is bad news no matter what, but these batteries (PC680) are much less prone to that then say a lithium battery, another reason we chose that one. The heat plate in between does act like a heat shield to a degree. The trimming needed was likely due to the powdercoat. We'll have to keep an eye on that next time around. But overall I'm glad it is working for you!