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Originally Posted by DocWalt

For $15 I'll take the peace of mind and ease of mounting wheels.

I can go on with stories of how car I've owned had vibrations on the highway without hub rings (or VERY careful tightening of lug nuts while holding the wheel centered) but I'd rather not waste my breath and attract the anti-hub ring people.

Originally Posted by kch

Like above, I prefer the peace of mind of using aluminum hub rings. There is no real downside.

Thanks for chiming in.

Originally Posted by strat61caster

There was a discussion a few pages back about hub rings when I asked, the long and short of it is:

If you torque your wheels properly every time, you don't need a ring, the bore doesn't take a significant portion of the load and is used primarily as an alignment feature. The lugs and studs do all the work.

I've got a set of plastic rings that came with my RPF1's, I usually use them for autocross because they're free and relatively low hassle. Except they get stuck and I have to pry them off with a screwdriver, need to get to the hubs with some scotchbrite and clear up the gunk buildup...

You can search this thread for 'hubcentric' and come up with most of the posts on the topic, but I already did it so here's the links:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ic#post1015715

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ic#post2557865

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ic#post2558002

Thanks for this, didn't notice the posts on this thread when searching.

Originally Posted by infinity21

I'm running -3/-2.1 f/r camber and zero toe all around. I don't think the understeer is pronounced but I felt it was there. I've since raised the rear a centimetre for clearance reasons plus removed extra weight from the rear (all the tools and the OEM Scion rubber mat on top of the spare tire) and it seems to have made the car pretty neutral.

I see, I'm pretty much the same at -3/-2 but .06* toe out F, .06* toe in R. I watched your video, it's a little hard to tell. Do you find yourself maybe going into corners too hot and over-driving the front tires? Tire pressures okay? With my RE71R tires, I find the car totally neutral and it rotates very well with throttle.