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Originally Posted by mav1178
Here's what I am getting at:
You didn't see or find any physical damage to the ECU, and now you are claiming that it is damaged from the tint shop.
Did you actually pull it out to inspect? Did you check fuses to make sure it's not shorted out? Or did you want to just find the next plausible cause and pin all blame on that?
Here's what Google told me when I searched for "BRZ ECU location", in case you wanted help with that.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19590
My initial suggestion still stands: if you don't want to deal with this dealer, take up your case with another dealer. If you've gotten yourself in a situation where Subaru doesn't want to help you out, then you start putting together a timeline, collect evidence, and go from there.
Blaming the tint shop for damaging your ECU (when it could be perfectly fine to begin with) is akin to blaming the construction truck in front of you for dropping nails that caused your tires to blow out, even though the tires blew up because of a sidewall defect that you are having trouble proving. I'm not saying the tint shop isn't at fault. I'm just saying it's very difficult to believe your story when you move to place blame so suddenly without providing evidence.
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mav1178 Everything you said is fair. No I did not check fuses or the ECU specifically. The unfortunate part about this whole issue is that every part of the equation could be possible. With that said, I am just going by what's most likely. Was the car indeed tuned/flashed before I bought it with 193 miles. I seriously doubt someone would drop the money for an OFT or ECUTEK within what, a week's driving time at most? However, sure, it is absolutely "possible" that it was tuned/flashed. I will say though that if that was the case, I can't imagine a tune/flash would run so well with zero check engines lights and such and all of a sudden become unstable and crap out at 3700 miles. I guess weirder things have happened though.
Secondly, could the tint shop have been the cause of the problem? Sure they could have. They could have had some punk flash my car. For what reason and how that benefits them I don't know. I did watch the footage though and saw no instances of possible foul play. What I can't stop thinking though and this is why I arrived back at the tint shop is that I seriously doubt this problem would have occurred randomly that same day on my next drive. Is it possible it was ticking time bomb and in the next 3 push starts the car would stop running? Sure but it seems more unlikely than not. So the problem would have to have been at the tint shop and since I didn't see any foul play the only possible way the tint shop could be held responsible was for the tint job itself. I watched the video and my battery terminal was never disconnected, the doors were left closed up until they started the job in the bay. It definitely is possible the doors stayed open too long but if the battery flatted I think that would have been fixed by the attempted (reconnecting of the terminals, attempted jump starts, dealer analysis, and me recharging at AutoZone.) So, my thought is its from the water or solution.
Lastly, the dealership. I believe the dealership was largely incompetent but more important than that, lazy and quick to jump to conclusions. Based on them telling me they hadn't seen a situation like this before and the next day I am being told it's been tuned or flashed tell's me they saw an immobilizer light, and said okay, definitely ECU related so rather than truly dig and spend time figuring out what's wrong. Let's take the whole area and restart (the ECU). Their knowledge (or lackthereof) of the alleged tune is evident by the changing stories. Furthermore, they seemed so quick to jump to conclusions about some "0"s that I can't help but feel skeptical of their professional opinion. However, I will not deny that they are being as truthful or honest with the readings as possible. I don't believe some exterior force hates me and PHS is maliciously approaching this problem. So the one thing I cannot explain from the dealer's side and I have to give some sort of credence to is the fact that according to them the CVN is unrecognizable and the CID is from a 2015 BRZ which seems to be more specific than just guess work like I aforementioned.
To answer your question, yes I did tint the windshield and that's why I have arrived at this conclusion that it may be the tint shop because I have no doubt the tint shop would tint my car's windshield like any others without a clue of ramifications to the electrical components of the car.