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Originally Posted by Entroper
Wow. An STI, really? Apparently the ND is even faster than I thought!
You guys are pretty amusing. These cars are in the same price range, period. They both start around $25k, they both have trim levels that go to around $30k, the ND has one more package on top of the Club that gives you Brembos and BBS wheels for another $3k. I don't think the Brembos made for an almost 2-second gap.
Would it be interesting to see a base or GT ND's lap times? Sure, I'd be interested in how much difference the Bilsteins and LSD make. But to call this an unfair comparison sounds pretty weak. Suck it up! The most important thing about these cars is not their lap times, it's how much they let you enjoy pushing to the limit and improving your skills.
There was a lot more information in the video than just the two numbers at the end.
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I didn't literally mean the ND was as fast as the STI, but at 33~34k you can get a base STI. See my point?
It is hard to see your point that these two are "similar trim levels" seeing as how the 30k trim for BRZ is just appearance/aero packages, whereas the ND's upper trim level is performance oriented.
Not trying to say our cars are the best at all. I talk smack about our cars all the time. It's slow as hell! no torque! But you have to also remember that the ND in this video had performance tires, whereas the BRZ was stuck with the primacy. I believe those
2 seconds gap would close with similar hardware.
So, what are the lap times for the base ND that is similar to the hardware of the BRZ? isn't that what the whole lightweight, COG, and chassis engineering is all about? Not some bullshit about this car costs 33k with all this performance package, but we will compare it to another car at ~30k with cool bodykits/blue interior?
Don't get me wrong, the ND looks fun and I'm impressed with the results. But if I had 34k to spend on a car, I wouldn't be getting the club spec ND. There's much more to be had for that. I would not have paid MSRP for the series blue either (I bought mine used for much less).
my $0.2